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Mar.26,
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phuongtruongter: chao bo!
liemsj: Chao BPhuong, Tung nhe.
liemsj: Chao con.
phuongtruongter: co danglay file
bo goi cho con ne
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tungsoft: Chao Thay va cac ban!
liemsj: Chao Trinh, Tungsoft va
Tung matthias nhe.
trinh1010: Chao Thay va cac ban
phuongtruongter: Chao Trinh va
Tung
tungsoft: BP co viec lam chua hay
vao HCM City TungSoft ti`nh nguyen nuoi ne`
phuongtruongter: ok
phuongtruongter: sap vao roi
phuongtruongter: chuan bi gao di
tungsoft: nhung nho*' an it' i't
thoi day nhe'
liemsj: Chung ta bat dau nhe cac
em.
liemsj: Thay cau nguyen khoi dau
nhe.
liemsj: Tung nho moi cac ban khac
vao giup thay.
tungsoft: da
liemsj: Lay Chua, chung con tin
Chua dang hien dien voi chung con.
liemsj: Chinh Chua da quy tu chung
con va lam chung con gan nhau, thong hiep voi nhau trong giay phut nay.
liemsj: Xin Chua ban ThanhThan, de
Thanh Than Chua Kito giup chung con, huong dan chung con trong gio chia se nay.
liemsj: Xin cho chung con duoc on
khon ngoan va thong hieu, de hieu hon ve Duc Yesu hon, hieu hon ve Thien Chua
hon.
liemsj: Xin cho chung con nhan ra
tinh yeu vo cung cua Thien Chua doi voi chung con qua duc Yesu Kito.
liemsj: Xin cho chung con tro
thanh chung nhan tinh yeu cua Chua.
liemsj: Chung con cau xin, nho duc
Kito, Chua chung con. Amen.
tungsoft: Amen
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phuongtruongter: Amen.
liemsj: Chao Anh Tam nhe.
phuongtruongter: chao anh Tam
anhtamnguyen: Xin chao moi nguoi!
tungsoft: wa, ai cung goi ... la
Anh het!
tungsoft: Tam suong qua' ta
luulyf joined the room
liemsj: Truoc moi lan chia se,
chung ta gioi thieu ve chinh minh cho nhung ban khac biet.
liemsj: Xin cac ban gioi thieu ho
ten, noi minh dang hien dien..... va nhung gi ban muon them, cu tu nhien.
luulyf: Minh la Van Tung, dang o
SG
liemsj: Mung Tung da vao phong
chia se duoc.
tungsoft: ThanhTung, o Q3 HCM
luulyf: da, dia chi nay thi em vao
duoc nhung matung1610 thi khong duoc Thay a!
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phuongtruongter: Bich Phuong, o
NT, dang that nghiep
anhtamnguyen: Cac ban cu goi minh
la Tam thoi. Minh ddang lam viec chung cty voi Tung
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trinh1010: Trinh dang o Bien Hoa
luulyf: chao Trinh
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liemsj: Chao AnhThu, moi AnhThu
gioi thieu nhe.
liemsj: Sao khong thay AnhThu len
tieng nhi? Hoi la do.
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liemsj: Chao Thuy nhe. Cac ban
dang gioi thieu. em gioi thieu di.
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pnvthuy: Chao Thay va tat ca cac
anh chi
liemsj: Chao Binh nhe. Moi Binh
gioi thieu.
liemsj: Cac ban khac da gioi thieu
roi.
mtduybinh: con chao thay va cac
anh chi A !
liemsj: Bay gio chung ta bat dau
chi se nhe.
pnvthuy: Minh ten Pham thi Thuy
hien dang lam o SG
liemsj: cau hoi chia se cua chung
ta nam o trang web http://www.geocities.ws/liempham/detai.htm
tungsoft: 1. Dau la diem khac biet
nen tang giua Kito giao va cac ton giao khac? 2. Tai sao ban tin Duc Yesu la
Thien Chua? La Thien Chua Nhap The?
liemsj: Cam on Tung. Vang, do la
cau hoi. Bay gio chung ta chia se cau hoi thu nhat: Dau la diem khac biet nen
tang giua Kito giao va cac ton giao khac?
letter022002: con chao Thay va moi
nguoi
liemsj: Xin cac ban cu tu nhien,
va noi theo quan diem hieu biet cua rieng minh.
luulyf: Ki To Giao la dao cho
chinh thien chua sang lap nen, con cac ton giao khac la do con nguoi sang lap.
liemsj: Chao AnhThu. Cac ban moi
doc xong cau hoi cua ngay hom nay thoi. con gioi thieu va chuan bi chia se nhe.
letter022002: Theo con ,su khac
biet la o cho chung ta tin rang con nguoi co the xac va linh hon
ladieubong_jvc joined the room
liemsj: Voi cau tra loi cua Tung,
nguoi ta co the hoi: vay Dothai giao do Thien Chua hay do con nguoi lap nen?
ladieubong_jvc: con chao thay
.Chao moi nguoi
liemsj: voi cau tra loi cua
AnhThu, nguoi Hoi giao ho cung tin nhu vay thi sao?
liemsj: Chao HuyenTam nhe. cac ban
moi bat dau. con gioi thieu ten va chia se nhe.
liemsj: Cac ban dung ngai, cu cho
cau tra loi len, va... chung ta se giup nhau tim ra cau tra loi dung.
pnvthuy: Do la su song doi doi
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ladieubong_jvc: Huyen Tam.hien o
Thanh Pho HCM
liemsj: Chao npma va TramAnh nhe.
liemsj: cac ban co the gioi thieu
va bat dau chia se....
annaanh79: Chao Thay va moi nguoi!
liemsj: Xin cac ban khac cu cho y
kien cua minh len.
mtduybinh left the room
liemsj: Tung, BPhuong, HuyenTam,
TramAnh, Binh tra loi cau hoi the nao?
mtduybinh joined the room
liemsj: Trinh nghi the nao ve cau
hoi?
liemsj: Moi Binh tra loi nhe.
mtduybinh: Xin loi con bi thoat
tungsoft: Theo TungSoft, dieu khac
biet do' la khoi nguoi cua chung ta la tu ThienChua!
liemsj: Cau hoi la: theo ban, dau
la diem khac biet nen tang giua Kito giao va cac ton giao khac?
liemsj: Khong sao Binh, tiep tuc
chia se di em.
ladieubong_jvc: theo Tam ,dao Tc
la dao dau tien nhan manh ve bac ai ,yeu thuong va tha thu bao dung
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liemsj: Tung viet lai di:
"khoi nguoi" la gi?
npma2002 joined the room
tungsoft: Theo TungSoft, dieu khac
biet do' la khoi nguon cua chung ta la tu ThienChua!
phuongtruongter: Kito giao tin
rang Duc Yesu la con TC vi yeu thuong da xuong the lam nguoi va cuu do chung ta
de chung ta co duoc su song doi doi
ladieubong_jvc: va nhan manh
liemsj: Tung chua doc cau thay
viet khi nhan duoc cau tra loi cua Tung Matthias (luulyf) roi.
ladieubong_jvc: tinh ban huu
phuongtruongter: neu T noi the thi
Do thai giao cung tin nhu vay
ladieubong_jvc: du do la ke thu
luulyf: Truoc Chua Jesu, thi co
the noi la do Chua lap nen, nhung tu sau khi CHua Jesu xuong the lam nguoi de
chuoc toi va kien toan lai luat cua Mose, Do Thai Giao khong tin vao Chua Jesu
nen co the noi tu day, Do Thai Giao da chon cho minh mot con duong di khac voi
Y cua TC.
luulyf: Nhu vay em co the noi mot
canh ro hon: Dao Cong giao la do chinh Cua Jesu sang lap, con cac dao khac thi
do con nguoi lap nen
ladieubong_jvc: nhung Chua Jesu
cung la mot con nguoi
annaanh79: theo con thi Kito giao
khac cac ton giao khac la con duong den hanh phuc, den su sieu thoat chinh la
Tinh yeu.
annaanh79: Tinh yeu la tuyet doi
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liemsj: Thao HuyenTam, Kito giao
chi la ton giao NHAN MANH HON ve bac ai thoi, hay la dao DUY NHAT noi ve bac
ai.... Neu chi la nhan manh HON thoi, thi co gi khac lam? va lam sao biet cai
HON nay?
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joseph_diep: Chao ca hpong
ladieubong_jvc: theo Tam,dao TC
ladao dau tien nhan manh ve bac ai
liemsj: Theo TramAnh, nhung tin
huu cua cac ton giao khac khong tin rang ton giao cua ho la con duong dan toi
hanhphuc va dan toi Thien Chua sao? chang han Hoi giao, Dothai giao.....?
phuongtruongter: ko chi kito giao
noi ve bac ai dau
npma2002: Neu noi ve bac ai thi
dao nao cung bac ai ca
phuongtruongter: An do giao cung
coi trong bac ai lam
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liemsj: Chao Diep. Diep co the
gioi thieu va chia se cau hoi thu nhat. cac ban dang chia se roi.
joseph_diep: theo toi su khac nhau
giua dao Cong Giao va cac da khac la:
liemsj: chao Chi Bich Phuong nhe.
joseph_diep: ta xung voi Dang ta
ton tho la CHA
npma2002: Phat giao cung the
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liemsj: Chao Thuy. Moi Thuy chia
se nhe.
joseph_diep: con cac ban nghi sao?
liemsj: Moi Trinh chia se. Nhung
ai chua gop y, xin moi tu nhien.
letter022002: chung ta tin su song
lai nhu su phuc sinh cua Thien Chua
mtduybinh: Dac biet chung ta la
chi the cua chua GS
phuongtruongter: co chu Tram ANh
ladieubong_jvc: va dao TC Tam thay
chi duoc ton tho mot Cha tren troi
phuongtruongter: minh dong y voi
Anh Thu do
ladieubong_jvc: moi dung hon la
ton tho Chua Cha va nguoi co ba ngoi
tungsoft: Diep oi, the thi Dao
khac co' cach goi kha'c chu Diep, vay thi diem khac biet nen tang la gi ?
joseph_diep: dong y voi Tung la
vay
joseph_diep: nhung dau co dao nao
xung la CHA va CON dau
joseph_diep: dung ko
joseph_diep: boi vay moi noi la
khac
liemsj: Cau hoi la: DAU LA DIEM
KHAC BIET NEN TANG GIUA KITO GIAO VA CAC DAO KHAC?
liemsj: Cac em da biet Kito giao
gom nhung ton giao nao khong?
mtduybinh: co doc giao
annaanh79: Nhung ma Phat giao coi
tinh yeu cung la mot trong nhung thu vuong ban lam ho khong sieu thoat duoc
letter022002: chinh thong giao
mtduybinh: anh giao
joseph_diep: va chung ta thay do ,
voi cach xung ho nay ta thay rat gan gui va than thien lam sao
joseph_diep: Tin Lanh
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luulyf: Da Cong Giao, Tin lanh,
Anh Giao, Chinh Thong Giao
liemsj: Chao ThienNhi nhe. Thien
Nhi co the gioi thieu va chia se. cac ban khac da dang chia se roi.
thiennhi2304: Con xin chao Thay va
tat ca cac ban
luulyf: Co Doc Giao co phai la
Chinh Thong khong Thay?
thiennhi2304: Da
npma2002: tinh yeu theo quan diem
Phat giao goi la tham ai
luulyf: Chao em Thien Ni
luulyf: Nhi
liemsj: thuong nguoi ta hieu nhu
vay, Tung a.
luulyf: Cam on Thay
thiennhi2304: Em chao anh Tung
npma2002: hay con goi la that tinh
luc duc
liemsj: Co the noi nhu vay: NHUNG
TON GIAO NAO TIN DUC YESU LA THIEN CHUA, THI GOI LA KITO GIAO.
ladieubong_jvc: Tam thay dao Cao
Dai cung tho chua Jesu nua
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liemsj: Cam on npma. Cam on em nhu
dai dien cua Phat giao o day... de neu cac ban khac noi dieu gi khong dung ve
Phat Giao, thi em co the giup cac ban khac hieu.
joseph_diep: dao cao dai ho tho
Chua Giesu
letter022002: khong cu the la Chua
Jesu dau be Tam
letter022002: ma ho tho con mat
troi thi dung hon
joseph_diep: nhung ho chi coi nhu
la mot vi tien tri hay la mot vi thanh thoi
npma2002: cam on Thay da hieu con
joseph_diep: co the noi hu vay
theo dao minh
phuongtruongter: dung la ho tho
Chua Jesus nhung ho ko coi la TC
phuongtruongter: ma chi la mot
thanh than nhu phat to nhu lai
npma2002: An nghi dao Cao Dai
khong tho mat troi dau
phuongtruongter: nhu cac dang tien
tri khac
joseph_diep: hinh nhu minh dang bi
lac de
npma2002: trung tam cua dao Cao
Dai la thien nhan
npma2002: do la con mat trai
npma2002: tu con mat nay co the
nhi thau ca the gioi
joseph_diep: theo cac ban
"dau la su khac biet giua dao Cong Giao va cac dao khac"
liemsj: Dao Cao Dai ho cung ton
tho Thuong De (Thien Chua) vay, nhung duc Yesu cung chi la mot tien tri thoi,
khong la Thien Chua nhap the nhu Kito giao tin.
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npma2002: Thay noi dung
mtduybinh: A cac anh chi co biet
vi sao DCD lai tho CGS k
npma2002: Vi dao cao dai la hop
nhat cua cac dao
joseph_diep: chung ta nen quay lai
de tai cua minh
npma2002: la su dung hoa tat ca
cac dao
liemsj: Cac ban nhan ra diem khac
biet giua Kito giao va cac ton giao khac chua?
phuongtruongter: cung tuy chu anh
T
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liemsj: Cac ton giao khac ho cung
ton tho Tuyet Doi vay, va co the goi Tuyet Doi (ThienChua) bang nhieu ten khac
nhau, chang han, dao Dothai giao goi la Yahweh, dao Hoi goi la Dang Allah, dao
CaoDai goi la DangToiCao va dien ta bang conmat, v.v....
thiennhi2304: Nguoi ta hay noi
rang Dao Phat va dao THien Chua chong doi lan nhau , nghia la trai nguoc nhau
hoan toan , dung vay khong Thay???
joseph_diep: toi nghi chi so dao
minh la goi Dang ta ton tho la CHA va xung minh la CON thoi
liemsj: Mot so dao khac cung ton
tho Thien Chua, va cung coi duc Yesu nhu mot tien tri, chang han nhu dao Hoi,
dao CaoDai.....
joseph_diep: con cac dao khac thi
ko co dieu nay
liemsj: nhung voi dao Hoi, tien
tri Mahomet con cao vuot hon tien tri Yesu
annaanh79: THeo con Kito giao khac
cac ton giao khac vi Kito giao coi THien Chua dac biet DGS la trung tam, la
dich den cua cuoc doi. neu chi hieu nhu vay va ly giai nhu vay thi van khong
giai quyet duoc mau chot cua cau hoi
liemsj: Voi dao CaoDai, day la
thoi thu ba (TamKy) cuu do (PhoDo), va duc HuynhPhuSo moi la tien tri lon.
ladieubong_jvc left the room
phuongtruongter: theo minh biet
thi An giao cung tin vao Dang toi cao va moi nguoi la anh em
phuongtruongter: va nhu vay ho
cung ngam hieu Dang toi cao la Cha roi Diep
liemsj: Anhgiao, Tin Lanh, Co Doc
giao (Chinhthong giao) .... deu la Kito giao ca.
liemsj: Tat ca cac tin huu cua
Kitogiao deu goi ThienChua la Cha ca, vi tat ca deu tin duc Yesu ma.
joseph_diep: phuongtruongter: xin
noi ro hon
phuongtruongter: A^'n gia'o cung
tin vao Dang toi cao va moi nguoi la anh em phuongtruongter: va nhu vay ho cung
ngam hieu Dang toi cao la Cha roi Diep
liemsj: Voi cau hoi thu nhat: DAU
LA DIEM KHAC BIET NEN TANG GIUA KITO GIAO VA CAC TON GIAO KHAC, co ban nao con
thac mac chua hieu khong?
liemsj: TramAnh noi ro hon di.
mtduybinh: con thay mo ho sao day
a !
liemsj: Kito giao la nhung ton
giao TIN DUC YESU LA DANG THIEN SAI, LA CON THIEN CHUA, LA THIEN CHUA NHAP THE.
annaanh79: tai vi theo con giai
thiach nhu vay chang khac nao noi rang Phat giao khac ton giao khac boi vi Phat
giao tin Phat.
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annaanh79: giai thich nhu vay co
ve mo ho lam
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liemsj: Nhung khong tin Phat la
Thien Chua. Phat giao cho rang Duc Phat la Phat da thanh, con chung ta la Phat
DANG THANH (chua thanh) nhung moi nguoi se la Phat neu tu dac dao. TramAnh co
nhan ra diem khac biet chua vay?
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liemsj: Thay noi vay co dung khong
npma?
npma2002: Thay hieu biet rong qua
liemsj: npma, ten con la gi vay?
matung1610: Chao Thay con Tung da
vao lai
npma2002: da dung
phuongtruongter: minh dong y voi
Thay
letter022002: em cung vay
npma2002: con la Minh An
npma2002: Con da gioi thieu voi
Thay roi
liemsj: Tot lam MinhAn. Cam on con
nhieu nhe. Neu ban nao noi khong dung ve Phat giao, con cu viec giup cac ban
nhe.
liemsj: Thay xin loi.
annaanh79: Theo con neu gai thich
nhu vay thi khong giai quytet duoc van de
liemsj: cu noi tiep di TramAnh.
phuongtruongter: TA cu neu van de
cua minh di
liemsj: TramAnh cu noi tiep di
nhe, va chung ta chuan bi qua cau hoi thu hai.
annaanh79: ton giao nao cung dua
ra ly le nhu vay de noi minh khac cac ton gao khac
mtduybinh: " DAU LA DIEM KHAC
BIET NEN TANG GIUA KITO GIAO VA CAC TON GIAO KHAC?" mot cau hoi kho ai dap
duoc ...roi ..con cung vay ! thay !
npma2002: Thay oi, con phai ve roi
npma2002: kinh chao Thay va cac
ban.
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liemsj: NEU KITO GIAO KHAC CAC TON
GIAO KHAC CHU YEU TAI TIN DUC YESU LA CON THIEN CHUA, LA THIEN CHUA NHAP THE,
thi tai sao ban tin (dau la ly chung lam ban tin) duc Yesu la Thien Chua nhap
the?
tungsoft: dung la cau hoi kho'
Binh nhi
annaanh79: Boi vi dieu de hieu
nhat thi Ton Giao nao cung ci Nguoi sang lap, nguoi tao ra ton giao do la tuyet
doi, la dich den
mtduybinh: em dong y day ..
annaanh79: la diem khac biet so
voi cac ton giao khac
joseph_diep: noi nhu annaanh79
cung chua dung may
joseph_diep: quan trong la niem
xac tin cua minh chu
cbichphuong left the room
phuongtruongter: khong the noi
"nguoi tao ra ton giao do la tuyet doi, la dich den" la diem khac
biet giua cac ton giao duoc TA
annaanh79: KHi mot nguoi nao do
chon lua mot ton giao de theo ho deu phai xac tin niem tin ca
liemsj: Noi nhu tramanh thi can
biet. Hoi Giao voi Mohamet, nhung Mohamet khong doi la minh la Thien Chua, la
tuyet doi, ma chi la tien tri thoi.
annaanh79: khong phai chi Kito
giao dau
mtduybinh left the room
annaanh79: BAn nghi nhu vay khong
Josep_diep
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annaanh79: Neu nhu BP khong dong y
"nguoi tao ra ton giao ....." la diem khac biet thi cau tra loi la ki
to giao kkhac cac ton giao khac boi Vi tin Chua GS la co le con mo ho dung
khong
liemsj: Dung la moi ton giao deu
co nguoi sang lap; cac tin do cua moi ton giao deu tin rang ton giao cua minh
dung nhat; nhung chi co tin huu cua kito giao tin nguoi sang lap (duc yesu) la
Thien Chua nhap the thoi.
joseph_diep: va co mot dieu nua ma
theo minh cac Dao khac ko co la : chinh Chua Giesu coi chung ta ba BAN HUU
phuongtruongter: diem khac biet
cua Kito giao la tin vao Duc Yesu kito la con TC den cuc do chung ta va
liemsj: Mohamet (Hoi giao) khong
cho minh la Thien Chua.
phuongtruongter: va de ta co duoc
su song doi doi
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liemsj: Dothai giao, khong co vi
sang lap nao lai cho minh la Thien Chua ca.
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joseph_diep: de tu do chung ta moi
thay duoc su khiem ton cua Nguoi
phuongtruongter: nhung nguoi sang
lap ra ton giao khac ko goi minh la TC hay la dang toi caonao
liemsj: TramAnh nho doc nhung loi
thay viet gan tren day nhe. Phan lon la viet cho TramAnh do.
annaanh79: Con cam Thay chung ta
dang ly giai trong con mat Duc tin
phuongtruongter: o cai nhin khach
quan do chu
annaanh79: Neu duoi con mat DUc
TIn con cung nghi nhu vay
phuongtruongter: TA hay coi thu da
co mot dao giao nao ma nguoi sang lap tu cho minh la Dang toi cao chua?
annaanh79: nhung o goc do khach
quan hon de nhin nhan thi cau ly giai van con mo ho
annaanh79: con khong noi ly giai
la sai
ladieubong_jvc: Tam dong y voi
Diep
annaanh79: nhung rat mo ho
phuongtruongter: vi theo P cac ton
giao deu giong nhau o mot vai khia canh nho
phuongtruongter: vi neu no khac
voi ton giao nay thi se trung voi ton giao kia
duybinh3984 left the room
joseph_diep: phuongtruongter : xin
noi ro hon khia canh nao la nho?
joseph_diep: cva ban dang noi dieu
gi>
letter022002: em nghi chung ta
cung chi nen nhin nhan va chia se o muc do duc tin ,neu nhu khong dua tren Duc
tin chung ta dau co the chia se duoc nhung dieu chung ta cam nhan
phuongtruongter: vi du : nhu long
bac ai
phuongtruongter: tinh yeu
phuongtruongter: tinh ban huu
phuongtruongter: su song vinh cuu
tungsoft: Tung dong y voi BPhuong,
va neu co' khac voi ton giao khac thi o ton giao khac co dieu tuong u*'ng
phuongtruongter: cung dich huong
den
liemsj: Co the noi nhu vay: tat ca
cac tin huu cua cac ton giao, deu tin co mot dang tuyet doi (Phat giao thi thay
khong dam noi chac), va cac tin huu deu tin ton giao cua minh dung nhat la
tuyet nhat. Dieu nay co khach quan chua, tramanh? Tat ca deu tin rang Dang sang
lap ton giao cua minh la tuyet hon cac dang sang lap cac ton giao khac. Do la
khach quan.
joseph_diep: nhung tu cach xung ho
do co tiem an ben trong
liemsj: Tin Dang Sang Lap la Thien
Chua Nhap The, la Thien Chua, la Nguoi va la Thien Chua, thi chi co kito giao.
joseph_diep: vd : Duc Phat chi
xung ho voi cac nguoi theo minh la do de , de tu ....
joseph_diep: tu do ta co mot
khoang cach
joseph_diep: ko duoc gan gui
mariahuongbien: con ko biet nhieu
ve cac dao khac ,nhung con thay dao minh co khac voi dao Phat la ,Chua xuong
the lam nguoi ,tuc la Ngai song la than phan con nguoi nhu bao nguoi ,Ngai la
guong cho ta song theo ,con DAO PHAT thi ho chay tron the gian ,ho xa lanh the
gian noi chung ho coi tran the al be kho
letter022002: va con nghi chinh vi
tin dieu do nen chung ta moi theo Ngai ,dung khong Thay
joseph_diep: nhunh khi ta xung ho
CHA CON hay BAN HUU thi khac
joseph_diep: tu cahc xung ho tren
liemsj: Va bay gio chung ta sang
cau hoi thu hai, quan trong hon va nen tang hon, do la KITO HUU LA NGUOI TIN
RANG DUC YESU LA CON THIEN CHUA, LA THIEN CHUA NHAP THE.... VAY THI TAI SAO
BAN-- LA KITO HUU-- BAN TIN DIEU DO? DAU LA NEN TANG NIEM TIN CUA BAN? XIN BAN
DUA RA NHUNG LY CHUNG LAM BAN TIN DUC YESU LA THIEN CHUA NHAP THE?
joseph_diep: ta co the tam su ,
boc lo duoc tinh cam cua ta
joseph_diep: nhung suy nghi tam tu
cua ta
annaanh79: Thay oi, Con hieu phan
nao roi, co le con qua di sau vao mot khia canh cua cau hoi
liemsj: tot lam con. TramAnh da
lam cuoc trao doi hao hung day.
matung1610: theo em thi
liemsj: Xin cac ban tiep tuc chia
se di... cu viet va cho len nhung gi cac em muon. tiep tuc di Tung.
tungsoft: Tung tin vao dieu do qua
tinh yeu vo bien cua Duc Yesu, tinh yeu cua Ngai doi voi con nguoi that tuyet
doi! Yeu den do hy sinh mang song cua minh
matung1610: thu nhat la do LOi cua
ca tien tri trong cuu uoc da noi dieu do
pnvthuy: Theo con thi ngay xua cac
Tong do da tin va da truyen lai cho chung ta
matung1610: thu hai la
matung1610: Cuoc song chung ta cua
CHua Jesu o tran gian
matung1610: Thu 3 las
matung1610: Viec CHua Song lai tu
coi chet
tungsoft: Va chinh hinh anh Ngai
chet tren thap gia vi toi loi cua con nguoi, de cuu chuoc con nguoi da hinh
thanh nen niem tin o Tung
matung1610: Doi song chung ta cua
Chua Jesu trong do cocac phep la ma Ngai da lam
ndk90us joined the room
pnvthuy: bang chung la cac tong do
da dam hy sinh tinh mang cua minh de bao ve su that ve ma cac Tong do da chung
kien
joseph_diep: cac ban o lai chia se
nhe
joseph_diep: minh out day
joseph_diep: chuc an lanh
joseph_diep left the room
matung1610: Con cung dong y voi y
kien ve cuoc song chung ta cua cac Tong Do
phuongtruongter: minh tin Jesus la
TC nhap the ban dau la chi vi minh la nguoi kito huu, duoc sinh ra, lon len va
duoc day do trong moi truong cua Kito giao nhung no rat mo ho giong nhu la
truyen thuyet vay
liemsj: Cau hoi rat nen tang, ma
moi kito huu, dac biet la nhung nguoi co hoc, can phai biet va ly giai cho
nhung nguoi khac ve duc tin cua minh: TAI SAO BAN TIN DUC YESU LA THIEN CHUA
NHAP THE?
liemsj: Tiep tuc di BPhuong.
liemsj: Moi cac ban khac.....
letter022002: co mot ban moi vao
room co nick la nñk0us
liemsj: Hay khoi dau tu cai CAN
BAN lam sao de nguoi KHONG TIN ho co the chap nhan duoc.
phuongtruongter: nhung roi khi da
truong thanh, minh tu kham pha va tim hieu ve niem tin ma minh da theo
letter022002: ban do ten la Dat va
muon chia se voi chung ta
mariahuongbien: minh nghi giong
pnvthuy
liemsj: Chao Dat. Xin moi chi ase.
tungsoft: va Tung thay duoc dieu
vinh quang, tot dep, hoan my cua cuoc song doi nay va doi song mai sau qua cuoc
song Nhap The lam nguoi cua Duc Yesu. Ngai la dang HoanMy
phuongtruongter: va chinh khi hieu
hon ve Kito giao, ve TC va dac biet la ve Duc yesu thi minh da thay doi nhung
suy nghi , nhung quan diem song truoc day cua minh
phuongtruongter: co the noi, minh
duoc bien doi tu tu
phuongtruongter: minh nhan ra duoc
ban tay cua TC qua nhung bien co da xay ra voi minh
phuongtruongter: minh duong nhu
tim duoc muc dich cua cuoc song
annaanh79: Niem tin cua con rat mo
ho ve TC nhung khi di hoc Dai hoc, luc do qua nhom qua nhung bien co con moi
xxac tin duoc niem tin cua minh cuoc doi cua CGS la bang chung tinh yeu tuyet
voi nhat cua THien Chua danh cho con nguoi
phuongtruongter: va hanh phuc vi
dieu do
pnvthuy: minh cung duoc bien doi
nhu BP vay
matung1610: Trong Lich su, Nguoi
ta van cong nhan mot dieu la co nhan vat Jesu, nhu vay Ban tinh Con Nguoi cua
Ngai la da qua ro, Neu chung ta tiep tuc dua vao Loi tien bao cua cac tien tri,
Phep la cua Chua Je su, Cuoc song chung ta cua Ngai, Viec CHua Jesu chet va
song lai sau 3 ngay de ung nghiem loi cac tien tri, viec cac Tong do lam chung
ta, Tung nghi du de chung ta Tin rang Ngai la Thien Chua Nhap the
letter022002: ngay truoc con khong
tin vao viec nhap the va phuc sinh cua Chua Jesu
liemsj: tot lam... nhung phan lon
cac em tra loi kito giao (niem tin vao duc Yesu) giup em bien doi nhu the nao,
dieu do thi tot, nhung chua tra loi vao cau hoi: TAI SAO ban tin duc yesu LA
THIEN CHUA NHAP THE?
phuongtruongter: chinh vi the lam
sao minh co the ko tin vao cai da lam minh hanh phuc
matung1610: vay, anh xin loi de em
cho
letter022002: nhung trong mot lan
cau nguyen truoc tuong chiu nan
phuongtruongter: va tu do viec
chap nhan va tin la Dang Yesu la TC nhap the vi minh
phuongtruongter: se lam minh hanh
phuc hon
matung1610: Anh dang hop voi mot
nhom cac ban cong giao, em co muon chia se ve doi Song Kito huu voi tui anh
khong? neu co thi anh dua nick cua em vao
phuongtruongter: song tot hon
letter022002: con tu nhien cam
thay con nhin thay Chua la mot con nguoi that
phuongtruongter: dang la nguoi hon
ndk90us: Vay co ai biet ai la nha
tien tri " o the ki 20" ma se loan bao rang " thien chua se lam
cho con gnuoi hanh phuc hon vao nhung the ko toi !
phuongtruongter: vi minh da duoc
TC yeu den the
letter022002: dang bi dong dinh va
mau tu nhung vet thuong ay dang chay ra
letter022002: con nhin thay nhu
con dang chung kien viec do
letter022002: va tu do con tin vao
Ngai mot cach tuyet doi
letter022002: ai vay Dat
ndk90us: Vanga
ndk90us: - la nguoi biet ca "
qua khu va tuong lai "
ndk90us: duoc the gioi cong nhan
ndk90us: Ba da tiep xuc voi DUC ME
ndk90us: va caTHien than
liemsj: Chac chan la cac kito huu
tin duc Yesu la Con Thien Chua, la Thien Chua nhap the roi... nhung cau hoi la
TAI SAO BAN TIN NHU VAY? cau hoi nay giup cac ban ly giai niem tin cua minh cho
nhung nguoi chua tin day.
ladieubong_jvc: con nghi do la
khoi nguoi tu mau nhiem truyen tin
luulyf left the room
ndk90us: TAI SAOLAI TIN NHU VAY ?
ndk90us: TAI VI TOI TIN VAO TINH
YEU
mariahuongbien: con thay niem tin
cua con sao don gian lam ,hoi con hoc giao ly nguoi ta day sao con tin
vay,nghia la con tin tuong tuyet doi vao TIN MUNG ,va con tin cung do cac tong
do da lam chung ,cac thanh da lay mang song cua minh lam chung,va bay gio van
co nhieu nguoi dang lam chung ve dieu do
trinh1010: Truoc day con tin vi
minh duoc sinh ra trong 1gia dinh cong giao
ladieubong_jvc: khi Thien than toi
bao tin cho Duc Me .Nguoi co noi ve Chua Jesu"Nguoi se nen cao ca ,va duoc
goi la con dang toi cao"
mtduybinh joined the room
trinh1010: sau do co chut hieu
biet con thay song trong tinh than Kito giao rat kho
liemsj: Moi cac ban cu tra loi
theo suy nghi cua ban nhe.
mtduybinh: vua roi con kong vao
duoc
ladieubong_jvc: roi suot cuoc doi cua
Chua ,Nguoi da cho ta thay
mtduybinh: con chang theo kip roi
thay oi !
annaanh79: Boi vi con cung tin vao
tinh yeu, su mau nhiem cua tinh yeu, va CGS da minh chung duoc tinh yeu cau
THien Chua
tungsoft: niem tin cua Tung co
duoc dan dan qua ca'ch tim hieu Duc Yesu
letter022002: vi la mot con nguoi
nhung Ngai lam nhung viec ma con nguoi thuong thi khong the lam duoc
tungsoft: khi mot nguoi hieu ve
Ngai thi niem tin se hinh thanh, se na~y no
liemsj: Cac ban thu dien ta niem
tin VAO TINH YEU cua cac ban, lam sao de nguoi khac tin nhu ban thu xem. di
nhien la kho, nhung co gang het suc xem sao.....
letter022002: khong ai yeu thuong
bang Chua duoc
trinh1010: nhung qua thoi gian voi
nhung tiep xuc voi ngoai xa hoi con thay co ve moi nguoi dieu tin rang nguoi co
Dao la nguoi tot.
matung1610: em gioi thieu ten,
dang o dau nha
letter022002: khong chacx chan nhu
vay dau trinh1010
ladieubong_jvc: chua chac la the
dau trinh
ndk90us: Dien ta tinh yeu - hay
dien ta tinh yeu cua minh doi voi nguoi anh em
liemsj: Thay tro lai cau tra loi
cua BichPhuong: toi tin duc Yesu la TC vi toi duoc sinh ra trong mot gia dinh
co dao, va toi duoc day nhu vay.....Day la khoi dau nguoi ngoai ho cung chap
nhan, nhung lon roi... tai sao ban tin?
ladieubong_jvc: Tam thuong nghe
moi nguoi noi :ngay nay moi nguoi tin Dao TC nhung khong tin nguoi theo dao TC
phuongtruongter: la phan tra loi
sau do thay
liemsj: Tai sao nhung nguoi day
toi.... ho tin nhu vay?
trinh1010: Vi minh thuong nghe ho
noi " co dao ma nhu khong", nghia la co dao la tot roi
liemsj: Phai chang ho cung duoc
sinh ra trong mot gia dinh co dao.... va ho tin?
tuong_nha2001 joined the room
phuongtruongter: o day con chi noi
len ban than minh thoi
matung1610: Chao Nha
liemsj: Neu cu the la nguoi
vietnam, kito giao den Vietnam vao the ky 17, hoac the ky 16,... vay tai sao
nhung nhung nguoi vietnam dau tien tin duc Yesu la Thien Chua nhap the?
matung1610: Em gioi thieu di
liemsj: Boi vi co cac nha truyen
giao toi rao giang?
phuongtruongter: thay dang hoi vi
sao toi tin ma?
ndk90us: chi mot phan thoi
phuongtruongter: neu noi la vi sao
toi .... thi moi nguoi mot ve dau ai giong ai
liemsj: nhung nha truyen giao nay
la ai? nguoi nuoc nao? ho la nhung kito huu va la nhung nguoi co nhung quoc
tich khac nhau nhu Phap, BodaoNha, TayBanNha, Y, v.v....
ndk90us: do nhung nguoi truyen
giao
ndk90us: nhung cu the hon
ndk90us: la tin vao mot tuong lai
tuoi sang
liemsj: Nhung nguoi nay tin....
duc Yesu la Thien Chua nhap the.... . Nhung tai sao ho tin nhu vay?
phuongtruongter: con chua hieu y thay
hoi
annaanh79: co the do cac nha
truyen giao
ndk90us: khi ma cuoc song da buoc
vao duong cung
annaanh79: co the qua cach song
dao cua nhung nguoi ay
liemsj: Ho cung nhu chung ta, ho
duoc sinh ra trong gia dinh co dao, hoac ho duoc rao giang....
pnvthuy: con xin chia se de chung
to TY cua C doi voi con
mariahuongbien: con nhin vao cuoc
doi cua Chua ,va cac thanh ,cac tong do ,co le do la dieu kiem con tin tuong
nhat ,vi the de truyen dat mot nien tin cho ai con cung noi cho ho biet ve Chua
va co gang song nhu Chua mong muon
liemsj: va neu chung ta di tiep
den ngon nguon.... chung ta se nhan ra rang.... niem tin duc Yesu la Con Thien
Chua, la Thien Chua nhap the..... den tu cac tong do.
annaanh79: co the ho qua co cuc
trong coc song luc do va tin rang TOn giao ma ca c nguoi ngoai quoc rao giang
la con duong giup ho tim loi thoat
liemsj: vay tai sao cac tong do
tin duc Yesu la Con Thien Chua, la Thien Chua nhap the?
tungsoft: vang, Tung nghi la nhung
nguoi dau tien ay co duoc niem tin la nho co nguoi rao giang
tungsoft: rao giang de ho hieu
biet ve Duc Yesu
phuongtruongter: chua han dau TA
liemsj: cu chia se di Thuy.
tungsoft: va niem tin se nay sinh
o ho
phuongtruongter: nguoi ta theo dao
co rat nhieu ly do
trinh1010: Sau nay khi hoan toan
truong thanh co nhung dieu den oi minh tu that bai hay thanh cong minh dieu
thay co ban tay cua Chua sap dat cho minh
phuongtruongter: va no muon hinh
van trang
annaanh79: Tram ANh cung dang noi
mot trong nhung ly do
phuongtruongter: doi khi la vi
nhung ly do rat don gian nua
ndk90us: vay tai sao cac tong do
tin duc Yesu la Con Thien Chua, la Thien Chua nhap the!
liemsj: Tai sao cac tong do tin
duc Yesu la Con Thien Chua, la Thien Chua nhap the?
ndk90us: do la niem tin duoc xay
dung tren mau va nuoc mat
ndk90us: va cao trong hon la tienh
yeu
liemsj: Khi cac tong do con di
theo duc Yesu, thi lieu co tong do nao tin duc Yesu la Thien Chua nhap the
khong?
ndk90us: luc dau chi co Phero -
nho THanh than , ma tuyen xung
trinh1010: vi cac Ngai da duoc xem
tan mat nhung gi Chua da lam
liemsj: Khi duc Yesu chet tran
trui tren thap gia..... ho nghi duc Yesu la ai?
thiennhi2304 left the room
ndk90us: nhung cai chet va su phuc
sinh = niem tin
ladieubong_jvc: o chua Jesu hinh
nhu co mot suc manh nao do ma con nguoi khong biet duoc
ladieubong_jvc: khi Chua goi hai
mon d dau tin :Ngoi chi noi "hay theo ta" vay la hai mon de tu bo tat
ca ma theo Nguoi
liemsj: Bay gio cung tre roi...
thay cau nguyen ket thuc nhe. Va lan toi chung ta se tiep tuc chia se ve de tai
rat quan trong nay... TAI SAO BAN TIN DUC YESU LA THIEN CHUA? TAI SAO CAC TONG
DO TIN DUC YESU LA THIEN CHUA NHAP THE?
ndk90us: o chua Jesu hinh nhu co
mot suc manh nao do ma con nguoi khong biet duoc -sao
ndk90us: sai
pnvthuy: nen co the noi C biet con
phai trai qua cang thang do va C sap xep cho con co cuoc phong van do de tro ve
tham nha
liemsj: Sau khi cau nguyen xong,
cac ban co ai gop y ve chia se, hoac ve de tai chia se, xin cac ban cu tu nhien
nhe.
pnvthuy: dieu do chi la mot su
kien thoide chung to TY cua C doi voi con
ndk90us: khi Chua goi hai mon d
dau tin :Ngoi chi noi "hay theo ta" vay la hai mon de tu bo tat ca ma
theo Nguoi -
liemsj: Lay Thien Chua la Cha
chung con. Chung con ta on Cha vi gio chia se vua qua. Cha da giup chung con
hieu hon ve con nguoi, ngay ca nhung tin huu cua cac ton giao khac. Cha da cho
chung con hieu hon ve niem tin cua chung con, va cho chung con hieu hon ve duc
Yesu, hieu hon ve chinh Cha.
ndk90us: doannay conluon thac mac
ndk90us: Tai sao lai vut bo het di
theo CHua
ndk90us: co phai chua da dung
quyen nang
ndk90us: thu phuc cac Tong Do
liemsj: Xin Cha tiep tuc ban Thanh
Than cho chung con, de chung con song binh an va hanh phuc tung ngay, de chung
con tro thanh chung nhan tinh yeu cua Cha trong moi truong chung con song.
liemsj: Chung con cau xin, nho duc
Yesu Kito, Chua chung con. Amen.
letter022002: Amen
phuongtruongter: Amen.
tungsoft: Amen
pnvthuy: Amen.
matung1610: Amen
ladieubong_jvc: AMEN
trinh1010: Amen
ndk90us: Amen
liemsj: Cam on cac ban. Xin cac
ban gop y ve cuoc chia se, hay de nghi de tai chia se.... va nhung gi khac cac
ban muon... va cung co the dung room nay de noi chuyen rieng voi nhau, cung
duoc nua.
mariahuongbien: minh thay niem tin
cua minh co duoc la mot on lanh chua danh cho minh ,vi Chua thuong minh ,vi vay
de tryen dat niem tin cho nguoi khac minh hay bi lung tung lam v ako biet lam
sao may ,ngoai viec chung to bang doi song cua minh ,lan sau moi nguoi co kinh
nghiem gi ve viec "truyen giao "thi chia se nhe ba con
mariahuongbien: amen
ndk90us: khi Chua goi hai mon d
dau tin :Ngoi chi noi "hay theo ta" vay la hai mon de tu bo tat ca ma
theo Nguoi -doannay conluon thac mac ndk90us: Tai sao lai vut bo het di theo
CHua co phai chua da dung quyen nang thu phuc cac Tong Do
mariahuongbien: ma doi song cau
minh thi....thi cung co luc te lam
mariahuongbien: co cach nao khac
ko ba con
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ladieubong_jvc: con chao thay
ladieubong_jvc: chao moi nguoi nhe
ladieubong_jvc: chuc binh an toi
tat ca
trinh1010: Tray oi, hom nay vao
trang web cua Thay con thay hay qua
liemsj: Cam on Trinh nhe.
liemsj: Thay di day, cac ban cu
noi chuyen voi nhau nhe.
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