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July 30,
2003
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liemsj: Tung dang o dau vay?
TungSoft: con dang o Cong ty
TungSoft: con Thay?
liemsj: Cac ban the nao roi? Thay
dang o Saigon.
TungSoft: ngay mai la le Tha'nh
Y-Nha, con ko di duoc
liemsj: Hom thu hai. Sao vay? Mac
lam phai khong?
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TungSoft: da cac ban on ca. Co
Dinh co chuyen buon thoi
liemsj: Chao chi HongThu nhe.
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liemsj: Nhieu ban ve nghi he chua?
liemsj: Chao KimPhuong nhe.
conloncon2002: Con chao thay va
cac anh chi
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liemsj: kinh chao. Chi Hang phai
khong?
TungSoft: co' be' Huong ve que
nghi he roi
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TungSoft: be' Xanh nua
TungSoft: chao Hau nhe'
anhhau2000: hi
liemsj: Chao anhhungsp8 nhe, chao
anhhau.
TungSoft: khoe chu Hau?
anhhau2000: xin chao thay va cac
ban
anhhau2000: thank you
TungSoft: ben do' co' di du lich
vao he` ko vay Hau?
anhhau2000: k ben nay chi suot
ngay chi lam va lam thoi
liemsj: anhhau dang o DaiLoan phai
khong?
liemsj: anhhungsp8 khoe khong?
anhhau2000: da con o dailooan
anhhau2000: thua thay con nho nha
va vietnam lam
anhhungsp8: cam on. toi rat khoe?
liemsj: Tung oi, moi Ai vao giup
thay voi ba_tty2000
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TungSoft: da
conloncon2002: Xin thay va cac anh
chi cau nguyen cho em anh Mai Van Dinh vua moi qua doi
anhhau2000: thua thay, co khi nao
chung ta noi ve cong giao cho nguoi xa que huong k?
conloncon2002: Xin cau cho linh
hon Giuse
liemsj: Co chu Hau. Moi co cuoc
gap go cho nhung nguoi cong giao xa que huong day. Thay nghe noi o Roma.
anhhau2000: ben nay ai con thieu
nhat la duoc di xem chua moi chu nhat
conloncon2002: Anh Tung sao hom
nay khg thay ai len chia se het vay?
TungSoft: uhm chac ho ban hoac len
muon do' em KimPhuong
liemsj: Cac em nghi chung ta nen
bat dau chua?
anhhau2000: e tugn may van khoe
chu ? co thuong ve 97 k ? moi nguoi van khoe chu
conloncon2002: Co khi nao laulau P
di chia se moi nguoi lai o nha khg vay?
conloncon2002: Thay oi con xin
thay doi cac anh chi vai phut nua nha thay
TungSoft: uhm Tung van khoe Hau a,
moi ve 97 len ne. Moi nguoi van khoe ca. Du*'a na`o cung di lam het roi.
anhhau2000: 97 co mua k ? va 97
chac quen thang hu ny roi phia k ?
liemsj: Phuong noi ve congdoan cua
em cho thay biet chut xiu.
liemsj: Hau noi ve tinh hinh cho
em song cho thay va cac ban nghe voi.
conloncon2002: Cong doan cua con
van sinh hoat binh thuong Thay a
liemsj: Tuan truoc Tung di
linhthao khong? Dong cac ban chu?
TungSoft: con dinh di do.t 2 Thay
a
……..
TungSoft: Hau oi, du*'a mo^ cu~ng
nho*' Ha^u het a'. No' nhac hoa`i a. Mau mau ve voi tao va tui no' nghen
liemsj: Van khong moi duoc Ai vao
sao Tung?
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TungSoft: con moi roi do Thay a
liemsj: Chao Minh nhe.
anhhau2000: uh! khi tao ve thi tui
bay dua nao cung co baby het tron roi , taolam sao ma theo kip
minhbqm: Chao Thay
TungSoft: hahaha.. Hau oi, doi khi
ma`y ... mang baby ve ay chu! khi do' thi tao ko theo kip thi co'
liemsj: Chung ta bat dau nhe, de
roi cac ban toi truoc khong chan... nhe. Bay gio thay cau nguyen khoi dau, va
sau do se toi muc gioi thieu.
anhhau2000: da
conloncon2002: Thay oi hay Thay
tro minh bat dau di thay con nghi hom nay cac anh chi ve que het nen cac anh
chi quen len mang do Thay
liemsj: Lay Chua, chung con tin
Chua luon yeu thuong va dang hien dien voi chung con.
liemsj: Chinh Chua da giup chung
con hien dien o day, va cho chung con nhung phuong tien va thoi gian nay.
liemsj: Xin Chua ban ThanhThan cho
moi nguoi chung con.
liemsj: Xin ThanhThan soi sang va
giup chung con hieu hon ve con nguoi hon, hieu hon ve Thien Chua,
liemsj: de chung con song trong
binh an va niem vui.
liemsj: Chung con cau xin, nho Duc
Kito, Chua chung con.
liemsj: Amen.
conloncon2002: Amen
minhbqm: Amen
TungSoft: Amen
anhhau2000: amen
liemsj: Bay gio toi muc gioi thieu
nhe. Xin cac em gioi thieu ten ho, noi minh dang o (dang ngoi tai)... va nhung
gi cac em muon. Xin viet thanh mot hang, roi hay cho len....
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TungSoft: TranThanhTung, 1979, di
lam o Q3 HCM
bongxuanvinh01: Chao thay cung cac
ban
anhhau2000: Da con la Nguyen Hau ,
que o Dong Nai , 26 tuoi , vi cuoc song va ,,,, nen con danh xa que huong vai
nam de mong sau nay duoc hanh phuc va ... hanh phuc
liemsj: Dang o muc gioi thieu do
Vinh, gioi thieu nhe.
bongxuanvinh01: Hoa Xuan Vinh, CLc
BTrieu, lam viec tai Quan 10
pmvanduc joined the room
conloncon2002: Em ten :Nguyen
Huynh My Kim Phuong .Hien dang o SG tai nha tho Tan Dinh> Dia chi :289 Hai
Ba Trung F8. Quan 3,Tuoi 21
liemsj: Chao Duc nhe. Dang muc
gioi thieu do, Duc gioi thieu di.
conloncon2002: Dang la SV nam 1
pmvanduc: con chao cha
minhbqm: Bui Quang Minh, o Quan Go
Vap, di lam o Binh Duong
pmvanduc: minh ten Hoang Van Duc,
dang song o Tan Binh
vominhthu joined the room
liemsj: Co ai muon hoi tham nhau,
thi cu tu nhien nhe.
conloncon2002: Chao chi Thu
liemsj: Chao MinhThu, cac ban vua
gioi thieu do. Em gioi thieu di....
vominhthu: Chao Thay va cac ban
…..
vominhthu: Minh Thu, 24t, o Qui Nhon
………
vominhthu: da
conloncon2002: Sao di it vay chi
Thu
liemsj: Bay gio toi muc chia se
nhe. De tai hom nay hap dan day va co the co nhung y kien khac nhau.
liemsj: Nho Tung cho cau hoi len
giup thay voi.
vominhthu: xa ma` em
conloncon2002: Thay cu bat dau di
Thay
vominhthu: voi lai hau nhu cac ban
khong thu xep duoc thoi gian
TungSoft: Theo quan diem cua ban,
neu khong tin vao Tuyet Doi, thi lieu co the tin vao con nguoi khong? Lieu co
the tha thu cho nguoi ban doi cua minh khong?
TungSoft: Theo quan diem rieng cua
ban, neu khong tin vao Tuyet Doi, lieu co the co hanh phuc gia dinh khong? (Tin
vao Tuyet Doi, khong ham chua nguoi do phai la Kito huu hay phai song trong mot
ton giao nao do)
liemsj: CHUNG TA SE CHIA SE CAU
THU HAI TRUOC.
liemsj: Theo QUAN DIEM RIENG CUA
BAN, neu mot nguoi khong tin vao Tuyet Doi, lieu ho co the co hanh phuc gia
dinh khong?
annanhat joined the room
liemsj: Co the la mot nguoi khong
song trong mot ton giao nao, khong theo mot dao nao nhung van la nguoi tin vao
Tuyet Doi.
annanhat: con chao Thay va cac ban
!
bongxuanvinh01: theo toi neu ho
khong tin tuyet doi thi chinh ho bi lao dao , va tinh than bi anh huogn rat
lon, tat nhien la gia dinh khong co han hphuc vi mot dieu gi do lam cho ho bi
lung lay
liemsj: Chao MinhNhat nhe. Cac ban
vua moi doc cau hoi thoi, em chia se nhe.
annanhat: da
vominhthu: con khong hieu ro lam y
nghia cua cau hoi nay
anhhau2000: thua thay , theo con
nghi thi phai tuyet doi chu con tuong doi thi100% la k hanh phuc
liemsj: Tung cho lai cau thu hai
len giup thay.
TungSoft: Theo quan diem rieng cua
ban, neu khong tin vao Tuyet Doi, lieu co the co hanh phuc gia dinh khong? (Tin
vao Tuyet Doi, khong ham chua nguoi do phai la Kito huu hay phai song trong mot
ton giao nao do)
xuanter joined the room
liemsj: Neu mot nguoi khong tin
vao TuyetDoi, khong tin co Dang Tuyet Doi, thi lieu ho co the co mot doi song
gia dinh hanh phuc khong? Xin noi theo y rieng cua moi nguoi.
TungSoft: chao Ai (XuanTer)
liemsj: Chao Ai nhe. Cac ban bat
dau chia se roi do. Tung goi cau hoi cho Ai nhe.
TungSoft: da
TungSoft: con se gui rieng cho
nhung nguoi moi vao
liemsj: Cac em co hieu cau hoi
khong vay?
conloncon2002: Chao chi Ai
TungSoft: theo Tung thi van co the
hanh phu'c neu ho co tinh than xay dung
liemsj: Nhung tuan truoc dang chia
se ve hon nhan gia dinh, ve nhung dieu kien de co hanh phuc gia dinh. Cac cau
hoi cua nhung tuan truoc nam o http://www.geocities.ws/liempham/detai.htm
xuanter: ve y cua ban "tuyet
doi"
minhbqm: De tai mang tinh rong
qua. Moi nguoi co the hieu theo nhieu cach khac nhau.
TungSoft: nhung neu ho co' mot
niem tin vao dang tuyet doi, thi ho se xay dung hanh phuc do dua tren niem tin
cua ho, va niem tin ay gop phan xay dung cho ho hanh phuc ho*n
conloncon2002: Theo con thi neu
khong tin tuyet doi thi kho co the du duoc hanh phucvi moi nguoi tin moi kieu
lam sao ma hiep y duoc
anhhau2000: thua thay 1 neu nhu
thay noi thi con ngi cung co the song hanh phuc , nhung co le nguoi do ..
liemsj: Neu ho tin vao
DangTuyetDoi, thi cung nhu ho tin vao ThienChua roi. Cau hoi dat ra la neu mot
nguoi KHONG TIN VAO TUYET DOI, thi lieu ho co the song hanh phuc gia dinh, hanh
phuc lua doi khong?
bongxuanvinh01: chinh niem tin ay
lam cho con nguoi hanhphuc, boi vi neu ho khong tin mot dieu gi do thi rat nguy
hiem cho doi song sau nay, cuoc song khong con gia tri nua
toantri2001 joined the room
liemsj: Chao Toan nhe. Xin moi
chia se....
bongxuanvinh01: neu ho khong tin
vao tuyet doi thi lam sao co han hphuc duoc, boi vi chinh ho khong xac dinh
duco thi khong the hanh phuc duoc
toantri2001: chao thay va cac ban
TungSoft: Nhung nguoi ko tin vao
dang tuyet doi van co the co cuoc song gia dinh hanh phuc neu ho biet xay dung
du*a tren nen ta?n "nha^n ba?n "
liemsj: Y cua MinhNhat the nao?
liemsj: Voi cau tra loi cua Tung,
Tung chuan bi tra loi cau hoi thu nhat nhe.
ndk90us joined the room
anhhau2000: thua thay ! cuoc song
cung co nguoi nay va nguoi kia , cung co nguoi tin chua tuyet doi va cung co
nguoi k , nhung dieu ma tat ca nghi het la, truoc tien la tien va sau do moi la
chua , con cung co nguoi nghi nguoc lai va ca hai deu phai ngang nhau.
liemsj: Chao ndk nhe. Moi chia se
cau tra loi.
ndk90us: chao thay va cac ban
liemsj: Theo thay, co nhung lap
truong khac nhau ve cau hoi nay day. Cac em cu cho cau tra loi cua minh len
nhe.
anhhau2000: do moi la xa hoi , con
voi con thi noi that long trong con chua la tuyet doi , nhung long tin cua con
va cach song cua con thi co le chua tuyet doi lam
liemsj: Toan va Minh Nhat nghi the
nao?
liemsj: Cau hoi la, theo y kien
rieng cua ban, neu mot nguoi khong tin vao TuyetDoi, thi lieu nguoi ay co the
xay dung mot gia dinh hanhphuc khong?
bongxuanvinh01: doi luc vi cuoc
song kho khan thi ho moi chay toi viec cau nguyen, nhung cung co luc ho lo lam
an qua va quen het niem tin tuyet doi, boi vi tuy theo cuoc song cua ho nua, co
nhung nguoi hoc cao roi lai tu choi niem tin, co nhug nguoi hoa thap nhung bu
lai cuoc song cua ho rat ton sung dang ma ho tin, co the rang khong nen do loi
cho hoan can hduoc, niem tin phat xuat tu moi truong gia dinh la dieu quan
trong nhat, chinh su giao duc cua Cha Me lam cho con cai duoc song trong ne nep
tot
toantri2001: Theo con nghi nguoi
ngoai cong giao ho khong biet dang tuyet doi, nhung theo luong tam ngay lanh ma
ho thuc hien thi con thay co nhung tinh yeu that cam dong
pmvanduc: Co nhung nguoi chang
biet dang tuyet doi la ai va co the chua bao gio ho nghe noi den la co mot dang
tuyet doi nhung ho van co hanh phuc khi ho song dung voi luong tam minh
liemsj: Cau tra loi ham chua cac
ban cho thay TAI SAO ban nghi nhu vay?
annanhat left the room
annanhat joined the room
liemsj: Toan oi, tin vao TuyetDoi
o day ham chua ca nhung nguoi song trong cac ton giao khac, ca nhung nguoi
khong song trong mot ton giao nao nhung tin co Dangtoicao, DangTuyetDoi.
liemsj: Y cua Nhat the nao?
annanhat: da , nay gio con bi rot
nen chua hieu mo te gi het
bongxuanvinh01: co len toan oi
liemsj: The thi Tung goi cau hoi
cho Nhat vay.
annaanh79 joined the room
toantri2001: Theo con thi lai khac
thay a.
bongxuanvinh01 left the room
annanhat: con co cau hoi roi Thay
a !
thanhdieu14 joined the room
toantri2001: Con thay Hoi Giao ho
cho co duoc nhieu vo
liemsj: Chao TramAnh nhe. Moi
TramAnh chia se.
pmvanduc: boi vi con nguoi khac
loai vat o cho la con nguoi co linh hon (co the noi la co luong tam) va nho do
ma phan biet dau la dieu dung, dau la dieu sai de ho co the chon lua cach song
cho minh.
toantri2001: Nhu vay thi that kho
co hanh phuc
annanhat: nhung vi chua dinh than
duoc
ndk90us: Theo con Nghi tin vao
Dang Tuyet Doi dan den hanh phuc cung chi la dieu kien can- ko phai la du ,
quan trong la cach song cua 2 con nguoi
thanhdieu14: con chao Thay va tat
ca cac anh chi
bongxuanvinh01 joined the room
annaanh79: Con chao Thay va moi
nguoi
conloncon2002: Em chao chi Tram
Anh va chi Diem
kphamousbr joined the room
liemsj: ndk, neu do la dieu kien
can, thi phai chang khong co, khong tin DangTuyetDoi phai chang khong the co
hanhphuc gia dinh???
thanhdieu14: chao Phuong
annanhat: o day : Tuyet Doi "
co nghia gi day ?
liemsj: Chao thanhdieu nhe.
annanhat: xin loi !
anhhau2000: thua cac ban vay tgi
trong long cac ban chua la tuyet doi hay tien moi la tuyet doi ?
toantri2001: anhhau2000
liemsj: Nhat a, tin co DangToiCao
hien huu.... Gom ca nhung nguoi khong song trong mot ton giao nao nua.
bongxuanvinh01: toi thay dieu nay
rat kho vi cuoc song nhu hien tai thi bi loi keo con nguoi chay theo guong may
cua xa hoi, de co mot chut thoi gian ranh de nhin lai thi that hiem hoi,
toantri2001: anhhau200 oi! cuoc
song khi vat va thi tien, nhung tien khong la tat ca dau nghe
quangdungqt joined the room
liemsj: Chung ta chuyen sang cau
hoi thu nhat nhe, va neu can se tro lai cau thu hai sau.
liemsj: Nho Tung cho cau thu nhat
len giup thay.
pmvanduc: Tien rat quan trong cho
cuoc song nhung khong phai co tien la co hanh phuc?
liemsj: Chao QuangDung nhe. Moi
Dung chia se nhe.
anhhau2000: uh! minh cung nghi nhu
toantri.. tien no chi dem lai hanh phuc hien tai nhung chua dem lai cho ta su
hanh phuc vinh hang ..
TungSoft: Theo quan diem cua ban,
neu khong tin vao Tuyet Doi, thi lieu co the tin vao con nguoi khong? Lieu co
the tha thu cho nguoi ban doi cua minh khong?
liemsj: Cau hoi nam o http://www.geocities.ws/liempham/detai.htm
liemsj: Neu mot nguoi khong tin
vao TuyetDoi, lieu ho cothe tha thu cho nguoi khac khong? cho nguoi ban doi cua
ho khong?
bongxuanvinh01: neu chung ta quy
tien bac qua thi se bi no le mat, con nguoi that kho hieu ma, nhung chung ta la
nguoi cong giao chung ta hay tin vao dang ma ngai luon che cho cho chung ta
tren moi neo duong va thoi gian, du chung ta quen Ngai , ngai cung min cuoi va
dong vien chung ta trong nhung luc chung ta Cau Nguyen vay, ban dem tat het
bong den dien, ban thu thap mot cay nen thi gio xet minh thay tuyet voi lam cac
ban a, mot khong gian thinh lang lam cho chung ta cam thay chua rat gan,
TungSoft: TungSoft nghi neu khong
tin vao TuyetDoi thi van co the tin vao con nguoi, co the tha thu cho nguoi ban
doi cua minh.
toantri2001: Cung co the lam
liemsj: Lieu mot nguoi khong tin
vao TuyetDoi, co the tin vao nguoi khac khong? co the tin vao nguoi ban doi cua
minh khong? co the tin rang nguoi do se chung thuy voi minh khong?
toantri2001: Minh thay nhieu doi
vo chong ho van co the tha thu cho doi luc chi vi dua con, hoac nhung ky niem
dep
conloncon2002: Theo em nghi ho co
the tha thu va bo qua cho nhau va cung co the bo qua cho nhung nguoi khac
TungSoft: Mot nguoi ko tin vao
dang TuyetDoi, cung co the ho la nguoi hien la`nh, hay giup nguoi, muon gan gui
voi nhung nguoi xunh quanh, ho tim niem voi chung voi ban cua minh.....
liemsj: Lam sao co the tin vao con
nguoi, lam sao co the tin vao nguoi khac... khi ma doi khi kinh nghiem cho thay
nguoi ta cung kho co the tin vao chinh minh.
anhhau2000: da thua thay! theo
qoan diem cua co thi chua la tuyet doi va nguoi ban cua cua du tin tuong doi
hay gi gi thi chi can hieu va co gang hieu nhau thi co le thoi gian se quen di
chuyen cu va se hanh phuc ma thoi
toantri2001: Neu la con ma khong
tin vao Dang Tuyet Doi, thi con khong ai het ngoai tru con
toantri2001: Neu la con ma khong
tin vao Dang Tuyet Doi, thi con khong tin ai het ngoai tru con
pmvanduc: Nhu Duc da noi co nhung
nguoi khong biet Dang tuyet doi la ai thi lam sao tin duoc, nhung ho van tin
vao cuoc song, tin vao nhung nguoi dang song voi ho, nhung nguoi song xung quanh
ho, va ho cung co the tha thu ma.
vominhthu left the room
liemsj: Co le phai khai trien y
cua Duc, neu ho tin vao mot gia tri gi do, tin vao con nguoi, tin vao
chanthienmy, thi ho da tin vao TuyetDoi o mot muc do nao do roi.
pmvanduc: Neu toantri khong phai
duoc sinh ra trong mot gia dinh cong giao vay co phai toantri se khong tin ai
het?
bongxuanvinh01: neu khong trung
thuc thi han hphuc se bi phan tan rat nhieu, chinh luc do moi nay sinh nhieu
chuyen khong tot dep, vo chong khong con thuong nahu nhu truoc nua, toi thay
hien tai bay gio ty le li di nhau rat nhieu, boi vi ong an cha ba an nem,
toantri2001: Cung co the lam Duc
oi!
kphamousbr: ai cung hy vong nguoi
ban doi cua minh se trung tin voi minh, nhung thuc te khong xay den nhu minh
mong muon, va chinh minh cung khong hoan toan giu su chung thuy voi nguoi doi.
Vi the chung ta can phai di tim mot Dang ma chung ta tin duoc va khong bao gio
boi tin voi chung ta. Ma Dang la ai?
liemsj: Thay nhac lai, tin vao
TuyetDoi, khong ham chua phai song trong kito giao hay trong mot ton giao nao.
annaanh79: khi tin vao Dang tuyet
doi nguoi ta de dang quang dai hon, vi le do nguoi ta de dang chap nhan, de
dang tha thu va de dang "bat dau lai"
annanhat: theo con, cung nhu cac
cac ban, neu ko tin vao Tuyet Doi thi con nguoi van song hanh phuc, nhung neu
tin vao Dang Tuyet Doi thi hanh phuc se ben hon, hp se duoc duoc giu gin
liemsj: Co the co nguoi khong la
kitohuu, khong song trong bat cu ton giao nao, cung co the la mot nguoi tin vao
Tuyet Doi.
anhhau2000: noi cho cung thi deu
ma tat ca nguoi cong giao chung ta dieu quan trong nhat la phai tin vao dang
tuyet doi va phai tuan giu dieu ran cua ngai .. phai k cac ban ?
annanhat: nhung that ra bat ki ai
cung co mot Tuyet Doi de ma tin
quangdungqt: vang, d rat tin vao
duc ki to
liemsj: MinhNhat noi ro y cua minh
hon cho thay va cac ban biet voi.
pmvanduc: Toantri oi neu mot nguoi
song ma ho khong tin vao bat cu ai thi se nhu the nao nhi?
toantri2001: cac ban biet khong,
minh suy nghi dieu nay rat nhieu va minh cam nhan day la mau nhiem cua Chua
quangdungqt: du o gia dinh ca cha
me deu vo than` , nhung d tin vao duc chua'
liemsj: Noi tiep di Toan.
toantri2001: Vi doi voi nguoi
khong biet Chua ho se khong phai gap hoan canh giong minh
toantri2001: nen ho van cam thay
cuoc doi van dep
liemsj: Dung oi, co phai cha me
Dung khong tin co TuyetDoi khong? khong tin bat cu gia tri gi khong? hay don
thuan chi co nghia cha me Dung khong song trong mot ton giao nao?
toantri2001: va van con nhieu
nguoi de tin
kphamousbr: Khi duoc goi la Dang
Tuyet Doi thi at han nguoi ay phai la hoan my vo cung. O day co le tat ca chung
ta deu la nguoi Cong Giao nen moi nguoi deu dong y Dang Tuyet Doi chung ta ton
tho la Thien Chua, Dang tao dung nen vu tru va trong do co ca chung ta.
annanhat: theo con thi bat ki ai
cung vay , trong cuoc song ko phai luc nao cung em dep, va nhung khi kho khan
nhat ho lai nghi den Tuyet Doi va Tuyet Doi da cho ho niem tin de song vui ve
hon
liemsj: Neu noi nhu MinhNhat, thi
ai cung tin vao TuyetDoi phai khong?
quangdungqt: vang , cha me toi ko
tin theo dao gi` ca
quangdungqt: la cong san
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annanhat: da
liemsj: Dung a, nhung dieu do dau
co nghia la cha me Dung khong tin vao TuyetDoi. Dung nghi sao ve quan diem cua
MinhNhat?
annanhat: con nghi la vay
quangdungqt: cha me toi ko tin la
co' bat cu mot luc luong sieu nhien nao ca , ko tin vao bat cu' ton giao nao`,
chi tin theo l hoc thuyet cua mac thoi
liemsj: Tot lam MinhNhat, do cung
la mot cai nhin rat hay day.
quangdungqt: nghia la chi co vat
chat
annanhat: Tuyet Doi rat da dang ,
va duoi nhieu hinh thuc
quangdungqt: chet la het'
liemsj: Dung a, cha me Dung co tin
vao dieu tot noi long con nguoi khong? Neu co... co the do la dau chi cua long
tin vao TuyetDoi do.
liemsj: Doi khi nguoi ta phai phan
biet dieu nguoi ta noi "voi nguoi khac" va dieu nguoi ta nghi trong
long, ma chi mot minh nguoi ta biet thoi....
annanhat: da
quangdungqt: do la dao ly lam
nguoi thoi
liemsj: Cac ban khac co hieu y cua
MinhNhat khong? Cac ban nghi sao ve y kien cua MinhNhat?
quangdungqt: chu khong phai la tin
vao dang tuyet doi'
annanhat: theo con thay rat nhieu
nguoi van cho rang la ho khong tin vao bat cu dieu gi, nhung that ra ho van cu
cung khi ram va mong mot
liemsj: Dung a, dao ly lam nguoi
do dau ma co, dau la nen tang cua daolylam nguoi?
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quangdungqt: ba me toi ko tin la
co' duc chua , ko tin la co thien dang dia nguc , dao ly' do do con nguoi tu
dat ra trong qua trinh nhan thuc the' gioi
quangdungqt: va tu nhan thuc ban
than minh`
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pmvanduc: Thay oi co mot cau noi:
"con nguoi la mot huu the co ton giao" vay theo con thi bat ky nguoi
nao cung co ton giao, va chi can tin vao ton giao cua minh chinh la tin vao
tuyet doi roi.
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TungSoft: Theo Thay la nhung gi
minh cho la tot dep, tin la tot dep, lay lam gia tri song cho minh, tuc trong
long minh co DangTuyetDoi roi?
pmvanduc: Anh Dung oi cho em hoi,
vay ba me anh co tin vao cuoc song khong?
liemsj: Duc a, di nhien, neu mot
nguoi song trong mot ton giao, thi ho da tin vao tuyetdoi roi, cho du TuyetDoi
duoc goi bang nhung ten khac nhau.
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emlatamhontoi_toiyeumanhliet: cuoc
song la nhung gi` hien thi o doi`, toi dang suy nghi vay toi ton tai, toi thay
toi so` toi nghe
emlatamhontoi_toiyeumanhliet: tuy
nhien toi tin vao` duc chua'
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quangdungqt: iu ho bi da' nay 1
ngay 2 ko the biet'
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quangdungqt: xin loi~ , dunG~ bi
loi~ do mang.
liemsj: Tung, em nghi the nao?
Dieu nay tuy moi nguoi, nhung y cua MinhNhat la y dang luu tam day.
vominhthu: Thu chao tat ca cac ban
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liemsj: Cau tren cua Dung khong
doc duoc, viet lai di Dung. Cau truoc cau noi bi rot mang do.
conloncon2002: Chuc mung Thu da
vao duoc
annaanh79: thay oi, neu nhu nhung
gi noi nay gio con cam thay Dang tuyet doi la do long minh tao ra de an ui minh
khi minh gap that bai hay kho khan, cung nhu giup minh co diem tua ma phan dau
trong cuoc song?
liemsj: Mung Thu. Xin tiep tuc
nhe.
quangdungqt: cuoc song la nhung
gi` hien thi o doi` , toi dang suy nghi vay toi ton tai , toi thay toi so` toi
nghe emlatamhontoi_toiyeumanhliet: tuy nhien toi tin vao` duc chua'
liemsj: Sao vay ho TramAnh?
quangdungqt: da do la suy nghi~
cua dung~ ah
liemsj: Neu ai tao ra duoc, thi
diet duoc. Neu khong ai tao ra duoc, thi dau co diet duoc.
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annaanh79: nhu vay con lai thac
mac Dang Tuyet Doi la gi? (neu moi nguoi da ly giai, chi se roi thi thoi, de
con tim cach tim hieu)
quangdungqt: vay chua troi` tao ra
loai` nguoi` ? ai tao ra chua troi ah.?
hoahongmon205: em chao thay
ndk90us: Vay neu co mot Dang duoc
con nguoi tao ra khi ho that vong va chan nan, de dua vao - Se bi diet khi
duong ham co anh sang
liemsj: TramAnh oi, Tuyet Doi la
Tuyet Doi. TuyetDoi hien huu du nguoi ta khong tin, thi neu Ngai hien huu thi
Ngai van hien huu. TuyetDoi la Dang ma nho do toi duoc sinh ra, cha me toi duoc
sinh ra, vu tru nay co, v.v......
quangdungqt: vay tu dau co dang
tuyet doi day thua thay?
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liemsj: TuyetDoi la net dep ma
nguoi ta nhan ra net dep.... la thienmy ma nguoi ta nhan thay noi nguoi khac
net dep
ndk90us: Cau hoi nay cung giong
nhu trong khoa hoc " sau buc Tuong Plank la Cai gi ?
annaanh79: va nhu vay thi con cam
thay Dang tuyet Doi qua mo ho Thay a!
liemsj: Do la cau hoi, va moi
nguoi co cau tra loi..... Co nguoi gap co nguoi khong gap.
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quangdungqt: nhukhi nguoi` ta
khong tim duoc cuoi nguon la coi nguon` thi sao ket luan dau la coi nguon???
liemsj: Chac chan TramAnh khong
nam duoc Tuyet Doi, khong lam chu duoc TuyetDoi.....
quangdungqt: con cung` y kien voii
annaanh
quangdungqt: rat m mo ho`
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pmvanduc: ndk oi, theo minh da goi
la mot Dang, co nghia la vuot tren con nguoi thi khong the do con nguoi tao ra
duoc.
liemsj: Rat mo ho nhung cung rat
thuc....
ndk90us: Hay nghi xa hon Van Duc
-Nhieu ton giao
quangdungqt: nhu khi nguoi` ta
khong tim duoc cuoi nguon la coi nguon` thi sao ket luan dau la coi nguon???vay
thi` dang tuyet doi co hay ko?
quangdungqt: va thua thay`
ndk90us: Nen " Niem Tin"
Moi la diem then chot, ma "Thien Chua" da coi trong noi moi con nguoi
quangdungqt: cac ton giao khac
cung~ rat thuyet phuc ve su linh thieng, duoc chung minh, vay ton giao nao la
chan ly sday? tuy con rat sung mo duc kito
annaanh79: Con tin Dangtuyet Doi
la Dang luon hien huu du con khong ton tai, nguoi hien huu du nguoi ta khong
tin, nhung gi thuoc ve Dang TUyet Doi deu la chan ly va mang tinh tuyet doi,
chinh vi the con nguoi khong the phu nhan Dang Tuyet Doi chi co dieu ho co chap
nhan song theo hay khong theo ma thoi
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quangdungqt: vay niem tin co phai
tu con nguoi` boi con nguoi quyet dinh dung khong ah,
quangdungqt: con dong y voi
annaanh
liemsj: mo ho vi con nguoi khong
the lam chu... nhung rat thuc vi... Ngai co do. Khong the chung minh su hien
huu cua TuyetDoi nhu 2+2=4, chi co the CHI, va nhung dieu chung minh, lyluan
chi la dauchi... de con nguoi co the tim kiem.
pmvanduc: ndk oi, y minh khong
gioi han do la Thien Chua ma la bat ky mot Dang nao do, ma con nguoi huong ve.
quangdungqt: neu' la dang tuyet
doi co' thuc su , vay sao de con nguoi` mo ho` va kho so lam chi?
liemsj: TuyetDoi khong cung binh
dien voi ly tri con nguoi... TuyetDoi vuot len tren... va con nguoi noi ve
TuyetDoi, noi ve ThienChua, chi la nhung dau chi ... giup nguoi khac, hy vong
ho tim gap duoc TuyetDoi. Co the co nguoi gap duoc, va co the co nguoi chua gap
duoc.
liemsj: DangTuyetDoi khong mo ho,
chi nguoi ta BIET ve Ngai mo ho ma thoi. Vi ly tri con nguoi gioi han...
ndk90us: vi con nguoi la "The
Gian" , phai co ranh gioi ra rang, de co the vuot gioi tuyen
annaanh79: con nghi khi con nguoi
nhan biet va song theo dau chi tuyet doi con nguoi se cam thay minh vuot len
duoc nhung cam giac tam thuong nhung " hi, no, ai, o" cua tran gian,
va luc do con nguoi cang den gan Dang Tuyet Doi hon,
liemsj: Neu mot nguoi nhin qua
kinh vien vong, co the nhin duoc dieu ma mat tran khong nhin duoc. Voi nhung
nguoi chi nhin bang mat tran, co the nghi dieu nguoi nhin qua kinh vien vong
noi la khong thuc, la mo ho... nhung su thuc la su thuc.
annaanh79: luc do con nguoi de cam
nhan nhung hanh phuc dich thuc
liemsj: Cau hoi hom nay la....
Tung cho len lai giup thay di.
quangdungqt: vay tuyet doi sinh ra
con nguoi lam gi` ? neu ko maun con nguoi sung suong va tu do, tai sao cac ton
giao khac cunG~ co' su linh thien va huyen bi' , vay dau la chan ly cam giac do
giac quan va dem lai chu/ hanh phuc do con nguoi` tu tao ra cho minh chu?
TungSoft: Theo quan diem cua ban,
neu khong tin vao Tuyet Doi, thi lieu co the tin vao con nguoi khong? Lieu co
the tha thu cho nguoi ban doi cua minh khong?
TungSoft: Theo quan diem rieng cua
ban, neu khong tin vao Tuyet Doi, lieu co the co hanh phuc gia dinh khong? (Tin
vao Tuyet Doi, khong ham chua nguoi do phai la Kito huu hay phai song trong mot
ton giao nao do)
liemsj: Co le thay dong y voi
MinhNhat. Thay nghi ai cung co the co hanhphuc gia dinh.... Chi khi nguoi ta
tin vao TuyetDoi, nguoi ta moi co the tin vao nguoi khac, moi co the tha thu
cho nguoi khac, moi co the hyvong noi minh va nguoi khac.....
quangdungqt: su tin tuong vao
tuyet doi' chang qua do nhan thuc' cua con nguoi` ve tuyet doi' , dau la hanh
phuc? do nguoi` ta quan niem the' nao
quangdungqt: la hanh phuc nguoi
cho la nhieu tien nguoi cho la cong hien vvv biet dau ma khang dinh duoc day?
ndk90us: dung se co cau tra loi ro
rang neu doc "Thuong De va Khoa Hoc " , Hay "Bagavad - Chi ton
ca " (Chua kip xuat ban)
liemsj: Khi nguoi ta tha thu cho
nguoi khac, tha thu cho ban doi cua minh khi ban doi cua minh xuc pham den
minh, thi ham chua cach nay hay cach khac, nguoi ta da tin vao TuyetDoi roi.
annaanh79: neu chi nhin Dang Tuyet
Doi nhu la mot noi de minh bau viu luc kho khan, luc that vong thi do la cai
nhin chua toan dien va hoan my, phai nhin Dang Tuyet Doi nhu mot dich den va
phan dau song trong muc dich ay,
annaanh79: luc do con nguoi moi co
the hieu Dang Tuyet Doi va moi tim duoc hanh phuc dich thuc cho cuoc doi minh
annanhat: Nhat cung nghi nhu
annaanh vay , khi hanh phuc chung ta cung nghi den Dang Tuyet Doi chu
liemsj: Lam sao co the tin vao con
nguoi, khi ngay ca minh con chua co the tin vao chinh minh. Co le chi khi tin
vao TuyetDoi, nguoi ta moi co the tin vao chinh minh, moi co the tin vao nguoi
khac, moi tin rang nguoi khac that tinh hoi loi, moi tin rang nguoi ta se co
gang song tot hon,.....
liemsj: Neu ai yeu va dam lap gia
dinh voi mot co gai diem, voi mot ma co.... thi phai chang nguoi do da tin vao
con nguoi... va lam sao tin vao con nguoi.... co qua khu nhu vay neu.... khong
co gi bao dam.... phai chang co mot thuc tai, phai chang NGUON CHAN THIEN MY
dang hien dien noi long moi nguoi..... va do la TuyetDoi.
quangdungqt: con dong y voi thay o
diem bay` , nhung boi dau con nguoi ko tin vao chinh minh thua thay? chang qua
vi dau co gi` la chan ly thuyet' phuc nhat . dau co' gi` la tuyet doi !
annaanh79: con nguoi khong tin vao
chinh minh boi vi con nguoi nhan ra nhung dau hieu cua tuyet doi, nhan ra Dang
Tuyet Doi nhung khi nhin nhan con nguoi minh la co qua nhieu gioi han, chinh vi
the con nguoi minh mat niem tin
annanhat: theo Nhat nghi :: Dang
Tuyet Doi khac voi ly thuyet ma Dung noi la khong co gi la tuyet doi ca
conloncon2002: Con dong y voi chi
Tram Anh
annaanh79: nhung khi tin vao Dang
Tuyet Doi, buoc theo chan ly do con nguoi se tu tin hon, manh me hon vi ho biet
ho dang di trong con duong cua tuyet doi
liemsj: Khong nhu vay Dung a. Tin
vao minh hay khong... thay dang de cap dua vao kinh nghiem. Co nhung nguoi muon
song tot, muon lam dieu tot nhung... ho lai lam dieu xau. Co the ai do co kinh
nghiem minh con khong tin duoc chinh minh (minh hua khong lam dieu quay nua,
nhung minh da sa nga va da lam) thi la m sao tin duoc nguoi khac....!
liemsj: Nhat noi dung do. Thay
dong y voi Nhat cau noi tren cua Nhat noi voi Dung.
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quangdungqt: kinh nghiem co boi
trai qua, boi co thoi gian, nhung kinh nghiem cho ta thay tuyet doi o cho~
nao`, neu nhu sao co the thay, ma khong thay' la khong biet'! ma khong biet thi
sao noi cho duoc? Gia su biet roi` thi can gi` phai ban la co hay khong nua~
dau
liemsj: Neu mot nguoi khong tin
vao TuyetDoi, e rang nguoi do khong the co hanhphuc gia dinh. Nhung do la
lythuyet phan nao, co le ai cung tin vao TuyetDoi o mot muc do nao do.....
liemsj: Neu mot nguoi tin vao con
nguoi, lam mot hanh vi bac ai yeu thuong, thi mot muc do nao do, ho da tin vao
TuyetDoi, da tin vao ChanThienMy o mot muc do nao do roi.
quangdungqt: hanh phuc gia dinh la
do nhung gia tri ma gia dinh mang lai de thoa man quan niem the' nao la hanh
phuc gia dinh`; chu dau phai do tin hay ko tin vao tuyet doi', " vi du gia
dinh dong con la hanh phuc! nguoi ta da~ tin do la hanh phuc thi dong con se~ la
gop 1 phan vao hanh phuc; vay thoi! co' ai dong y khong ah.?
liemsj: Tin vao nguoi ban doi cua
minh, du la vo hay chong, tin vao con cai, tin vao cha me.... la da ham chua
tin vao ChanThienMy .... roi, la da tin vao TuyetDoi o mot muc do nao do roi.
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annanhat: Dung oi ? nhu vay nguoi
ta tin rang gia dinh dong con la dieu tot dung ko ?
quangdungqt: vay la nguo`i ta da~
dat ra su tin tuong... do la tuyet doi !
liemsj: Chinh niem tin vao
TuyetDoi do, giup con nguoi co cach cu xu tot voi nguoi khac, tha thu cho nguoi
khac, cho nguoi ban doi cua minh... hy sinh cho con cai....
quangdungqt: dung~ ko quan niem
nhu vay, d chi lay 1 vi du thoi, va da~ co thoi da~ co' bo phan nguoi` ta tin
nhu vay la hanh phuc (chua phai la toan dien)
liemsj: TuyetDoi la TuyetDoi, con
niem tin cua con nguoi thi... co the khong tuyet doi.
liemsj: Cac ban khac dau roi? Cu
viet y cua minh di chu....
annanhat: niem tin cua con nguoi
co the thay doi
quangdungqt: dung' a dong y voi
thay`
quangdungqt: vi` tin the' nao la
tuyet doi no se la tuyet doi thoi , con tuyet doi la tuyet doi' ai dinh nghia~
ra sao cun~G duoc
quangdungqt: tuc la no ko co' co'
dinh
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annanhat: y Dung la cai gi ko co
dinh ?
annanhat: suy nghi , niem tin cua
con nguoi hay la Tuyet Doi ?
annaanh79: dung, moi nguoi co
nhung quan diem khac nhau ve hanh phuc, hanh phuc khi dong con, hanh phuc khi
co nhieu tien....nhung do chi la hanh phuc do con nguoi dat ra. mot khi thoa
man dieu do thi con nguoi ta se khong con cam thay do la hanh phuc nua, hanh
phuc do mo ho va khong ton tai lau, con hanh phuc chung ta dang chia se la hanh
phuc dich thuc, hanh phuc keo dai, hanh phuc lam dong luc cho tung con nguoi
trong gia dinh..
liemsj: Thay muon noi TuyetDoi la
thuc tai, chu khong la y nghi tu tuong cua con nguoi. Khong biet Dung co hieu
dung y cua thay khong!
quangdungqt: va niem tin cua con
nguoi co' the thay doi
quangdungqt: ko co' gi la co dinh
quangdungqt: tuyet doi cung vay
TungSoft: vay theo Thay, sa^u
tha(?m trong ta^m ho^`n cua moi nguoi deu co' su hien dien (tin) cua
DangTuyetDoi ?
quangdungqt: nguoi ta tin no' the
nao thi` no' se nhu vay
ndk90us: Dung tu minh dua minh vao
ngo cut
liemsj: Hoan toan dung. Tung a.
Khong biet cac em co nghi nhu vay? co tin nhu vay khong?
quangdungqt: vang! d , vi` van de
nay khong co' loi thoat cunG~ cam thay ah.
quangdungqt: vi co duoc loi thoat
vay la ta da~ hieu duoc roi`
liemsj: Khi mot nguoi tin vao
tieng luong tam, la da tin vao TuyetDoi roi.
ndk90us: "Nhan Chi so tinh
bon thien "
quangdungqt: va da~ nhan dien duoc
tuyet doi roi` , thi can gi ` ban cai~ luong tam ko the lam bang cho tuyet doi'
anhhau2000: thua thay ! va cac ban
minh k nhieu time de chia se nua roi. da hon 9 h dailoan roi. cty sap dong cua
co le minh out thoi. minh chuc cac ban manh khoe va tim cho minh 1 dang tuyet
doi
annaanh79: Tuyet Doi khong phai do
con nguoi dinh nghia, ma con nguoi chi co the nhin nhan duoc toi dau thoi
anhhau2000: chuc thay manh khoe
annanhat: chao anhhau . Chuc ngay
mai vui ve !
liemsj: Chuc Hau an lanh nhe. Mong
gap tuan toi....
quangdungqt: vi sao ah? vi luong
tam do nguoi` ta tu nhan thuc the' nao la luong tam , co khi con nguoi` cho
rang an thit nguoi` than khi ho da chet la cao thuong (o mot so' bo lac ngay
xua) vay bay gio` dieu do co goi la luong tam duoc nua khong ah.?
pmvanduc: Dung a, khong phai la no
khong co dinh, nhung tren co duong chan ly khong phai ai cung co the di duoc
nhu nhau. co nguoi di duoc mot quang duong dai nhung cung co nguoi di chi duoc
mot doan, va nhu vay nhan thuc cua moi nguoi ve no khac nhau nhung chan ly chi
la mot. OK
liemsj: Chung ta ket thuc duoc
chua cac em? Qua gio dinh 22 phut roi.
quangdungqt: da , chuc thay va ca
room manh khoe , 1 dieu ma con muon thua voi thay`;
liemsj: Dung oi, dieu do khong la
tieng luong tam dau. Tieng luong tam la LAM LANH LANH DU.
quangdungqt: la con rat ' ham mo
dao cua duc giesu , nhung khong biet se~ ra nhap lam sao? vi con la nguoi ngoai
dao .
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annaanh79: Con Chao Thay va moi
nguoi. Chuc an lanh
annaanh79 left the room
liemsj: Sau tham la dieu thien....
liemsj: Thay cau nguyen ket thuc
nhe, de ai muon ve co the ve, va ai muon tiep tuc cung co the tiep tuc.
liemsj: Lay Chua, ta on Chua da
cho chung con gio chia se vua qua.
conloncon2002: Con chao Thay va
cac anh chi, chuc Thay va cac anh chi ngu ngon
annanhat: da
liemsj: Xin Chua tiep tuc o voi
chung con, giup chung con nhan ra Chua hien dien va hang yeu thuong chung con.
liemsj: Xin cho chung con duoc an
binh va hanhphuc tung ngay trong doi song chung con.
thanhdieu14: con chao Thay va cac
anh chi, chuc Thay va moi nguoi binh an
liemsj: Chung con cau xin, nho duc
Kito, Chua chung con.
quangdungqt: chao thay` chao` tam
biet ca room
liemsj: Amen.
annanhat: Amen
minhbqm: Amen
ndk90us: Amen
TungSoft: Amen
kphamousbr: Amen
quangdungqt: amen
liemsj: chao thanhdieu nhe. chuc
an lanh.
pmvanduc: Amen
conloncon2002: Amen
thanhdieu14: Amen
ndk90us left the room
xuong_rong822003: con chao thay va
chao moi nguoi
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