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August 20, 2003

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dthoaitan: hi tung

diengk83: xin chao moi nguoi

dthoaitan: anh khoe chu

TungSoft: wa, dong qua' ta

liemsj: Chao tat ca nhe.

TungSoft: chao Thay va cung cac ban

phong_ant2002: chao thay va moi nguoi

dthoaitan: chu sao thieu anh cung cha sao hihihi

phong_ant2002: chao anh Tung

liemsj: Tung oi, tuan truoc co nhieu nguoi tim Tung de vao phong chat ma khong thay Tungsoft dau day.

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liemsj: Chung ta bat dau nhe. Thay thay co hon 10 ban roi.

wavelet0610: anh DIEN cu tu tu nao

liemsj: Sau khi thay caunguyen bat dau, cac em se gioi thieu trong khoang 5 phut, va sau do se chia se.

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liemsj: Lay Chua, chung con tin Chua dang hien dien voi chung con.

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liemsj: Xin Chua ban ThanhThan, de Ngai hien dien voi chung con, dong hanh va huong dan chung con trong gio chia se hoc hoi nay.

pmvanduc: Con chao thay va moi nguoi

liemsj: Xin cho chung con hieu hon ve Chua va ve con nguoi...

wavelet0610: dang cau nguyen day

wavelet0610: chut nua chao nha

liemsj: Xin cho chung con o trong tinh yeu Chua va cua nhau.

liemsj: Amen.

liemsj: Chung con cau xin, nho Duc Kito, Chua chung con.

vominhthu: Amen

diengk83: Amen

conloncon2002: Amen

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phong_ant2002: Amen.

TungSoft: Amen

wavelet0610: aamen

dothetruong: amen

pmvanduc: amen.

lienmarian: Amen.

liemsj: Bay gio, xin cac em tu gioi thieu nhe. Cac em gioi thieu ten ho, hien em dang ngoi o dau....(tinh nao, ...) de thay chung ta xa nhau va gan nhau den muc nao..... Cac em viet thanh mot hang, roi hay cho len nhe.

vominhthu: minh la Minh Thu*, hien dang o Qui Nhon

dothetruong: Con ten Truong , Dang o Bao loc _Lam Dong

liemsj: Bay gio tro di, cac em dung chat rieng voi nhau nua, nhung chi chia se trong phong lon nay ma thoi. Nhe?

wavelet0610: em la H\ong Cam thuoc cong doan Gia Kiem

lienmarian: em danh o Gia kiem- Dong nai. Ten la Pham thi bich Lien

phong_ant2002: Mai quoc Phong , dang o Q. TB-TP. HCM

wavelet0610: da

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liemsj: Cac e, cung co the hoi nhung thong tin ve nhau, neu cac em muon va neu ban do muon tra loi.

diengk83: Con xin tu gioi thieu: con la Dien, o cong doan GK, va bay gio cung dang o GK(Dong Nai)

conloncon2002: Minh la Kim Phuong o cong doan BTdang hoc o SG

TungSoft: Jacobe TranThanhTung, 1979, lam ve Software, dang o Q3 HCM city

wavelet0610: chao chi Phuong nha

liemsj: Chao KimAnh nhe. KimAnh gioi thieu nhe. Dang o muc gioi thieu do.

pmvanduc: Hoang van duc, dang nha o Dong Nai, song o Sai Gon va hien gio dang ngoi o Phong may tai Vung Tau

dothetruong: conloncon2002 Co phai la Phuong deo mat kinh ko a ? Hom linh thao gioi thieu em chia se ko ?

liemsj: Qua tuyet, Duc, rat ro rang....

conloncon2002: Phai

wavelet0610: sao ma may em chay cham qua

lienmarian: anh Duc co o trong Cd nao ko, bay gio em moi nghe ten do

TungSoft:

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wavelet0610: cac anh chi noi ma em chang gi ca

vuhoantran: Chao Thay va moi nguoi

lienmarian: Em Cam oi sao ma de thuong qua. hi hi hi

TungSoft: KimAnh dau ru`i ?

diengk83: Cam oi, internet o day mac qua phai ko?

teresajinying: Da vang, Minh tu gioi thieu, minh ten Kim Anh, dang o Q2

conloncon2002: Chao anh Hoan Vu

liemsj: De tai chia se nam o http://www.geocities.ws/liempham/detai.htm Cac em thu nhay vao do, xem co mo duoc khong nhe.

vuhoantran: moi nguoi gio thieu ve minh chua Thay

wavelet0610: chi Kim Anh oi

pmvanduc: A! minh khong o trong cong doan nao ca Lienmarian a.

liemsj: Co ai can hoi nhau, cu hoi nhe. 1 phut nua se cho de tai len va chia se nhe.

lienmarian: anh Hoan o Ngoc lam phai ko

wavelet0610: anh HOAN gioi thieu di

liemsj: Dang muc gioi thieu do tran vu hoan.

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teresajinying: wavelet0610 la ai vay moi nguoi, kim anh ko biet?

wavelet0610: anh hoan oi

wavelet0610: anh noi di kiaaa

lienmarian: Chi Ka oi, la Cam thuoc CD GK cua em do

conloncon2002: Ko phai anh Hoan dau Cam oi

teresajinying: wavelet0610 , em la ai?

lienmarian: chi Phuong oi hen gap chieu thu Bay nhe

wavelet0610: uua the sao

wavelet0610: em xin loi nha

lienmarian: sao chang thay Thay noi gi vay?

liemsj: Bay gio chung ta chia se nhe..... Thay nho Tung cho de tai len giup thay nhe.

wavelet0610: em tuong la anh HOAN o ngoc lam co day

wavelet0610: the anh la ai vay

TungSoft: Trong chia se tuan vua qua, mot ban noi co mot so nguoi tri thuc cho rang: (i) dao CongGiao phan khoa hoc, vi khoa hoc cho biet con nguoi tien hoa tu vuon, ma dao CongGiao day con nguoi do ThienChua tao thanh; (ii) dao CongGiao la dao cua phuong Tay, nhung nguoi CongGiao mu qua'ng va co khuynh huong phan boi dat nuoc, dang bi cac nuoc phuong Tay loi dung de xam chiem dat nuoc. Ban tra loi va gioi thich sao voi nhung loi phe binh tren? Nhung phe binh tren van nam trong cau hoi thu nhat cua tuan truoc. Neu con nhung loi phe binh can giai thich, chung ta se cung nhau suy nghi tra loi, neu het, chung ta se chuyen sang cau hoi thu hai va ba cua tuan truoc. (ngay 13-08-2003)

lienmarian: Sao anh Vhtran chang noi gi vay

conloncon2002: La anh Vu dang tim hieu o cong doan chi do

vuhoantran: xin loi moi nguoi nhe

lienmarian: Em co mot ban noi khong he tin gi dao minh ma chi tin o chinh minh thoi

vuhoantran: tai vi toi ban phai giup mot nguoi co dua con bo nha di bui gan 2 thang nay

lienmarian: hinh nhu la anh Vu deo mat kieng, mat tron phai ko

vuhoantran: ho rat la suy sup tin than

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liemsj: Thoi, khong can hoi thong tin ve nhau nua cac em nhe. Chung ta chia se theo de tai nhe. Sau 8:00 cac em co the noi chuyen voi nhau neu muon.

vuhoantran: vang

lienmarian: NGuyoi lon chua va la trai hay gai vay anh Vu

liemsj: Cau hoi bay gio la: BAN CO DONG Y RANG CON NGUOI TIEN HOA TU VUON KHONG?

wavelet0610: em ban roi

wavelet0610: chao Thay va cac anh chi nha

vuhoantran: la trai

vuhoantran: nguoi bo nha di bui doi khoang 19t

phong_ant2002: do la cach noi cua thoi " GH so khai" hay thoi Mandi

liemsj: Chao Toan va ndk90us nhe.

ndk90us: chao thay va cac ban

wavelet0610: moi nguoi o lai

dothetruong: Dong y !

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lienmarian: Ly do ban do bo di , ban do co La nguoi Cong giao ko vay

vuhoantran: vang con dong y voi quan diem do, nhung ma thu xem xet lai xem cai gi tao ra vuon??? thu hoi co ai tra loi duoc dau nao

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phong_ant2002: CON NGUOI TIEN HOA TU VUON, do la thuyet tien hoa cua C. Darwin

lienmarian: khi con di hoc , con cung bi lung lay vi tu tuong nay? Va co nguoi noi ai tao ra Thien Chua nua

liemsj: Cau hoi la: EM CO DONG Y LA CON NGUOI TIEN HOA TU VUON KHONG?

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phong_ant2002: co

vuhoantran: vang con dong y

diengk83: Xin chao thay va moi nguoi, con phai ve day.

vuhoantran: nhung ma can phai nghi lai...

nhienvt2001: chao tat ca moi nguoi

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phong_ant2002: nhung do chi la 1 thuyet

ndk90us: con con nho la thay co tung noi " Hinh anh Adam va Eva " la hinh anh tuong trung

vominhthu: con thi khong nghi dieu do du'ng

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dothetruong: Ban chang the noi nhu the duoc !

dthoaitan: hi moi nguoi

ndk90us: vay , con cung chap nhan gia thiet con nguoi tien hoa tu loai vuon

liemsj: DOTHETRUONG noi cau nao vay, noi ban nao vay? co nhieu y kien cua nhung nguoi khac, nen phai noi ro hon do thetruong.

ndk90us: nhung tat ca deu la do ban tay chua sap dat va sang tao

pmvanduc: con nguoi co the tien hoa tu loai vuon lam chu

lienmarian: Chao Thay va Cac anh chi. Bay gio em phai ve.

liemsj: Trong cac em hien dien o day, AI dong y cho rang CON NGUOI TIEN HOA TU VUON?

vuhoantran: ma moi nguoi thu nghi xem, con vuon thi no tien hoa tu con gi di nao

dthoaitan: con a

dthoaitan: rat co the la` nhgu the a

vominhthu: con cung khong dong y'

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ndk90us: con chi chap nhan do la gia thiet co tinh thuyet phuc

vuhoantran: em cung the

phong_ant2002: trong Giao Li CG, ket luan rang :" Giao li thi thoi nao cung dung, nhung tam hieu biet cua con nguoi moi thoi dai moi khac"

nhienvt2001: cam oin anh

pmvanduc: con a

liemsj: Cac em cu viet that quan diem cua cac em di. Dau co sao dau!

dthoaitan: dua vao bang chung cua cac nha khoa hoc chung ta co the thay rang do la` su thuc

dthoaitan: ko the phu nhan ho duoc

dthoaitan: chung ta chua co bang chung xac thuc va hop khoa hoc hon ho

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dthoaitan: ne` sao ko ai noi gi nua ca

TungSoft: TungSoft dong y' co' the ConNguoiTienHoaTuVuon neu thuyet cua Dacwin du'ng

dthoaitan: sao lai ko chu

liemsj: Cau hoi la, cac em co dong y, co cho rang no dung, CON NGUOI DO VUON TIEN HOA MA RA KHONG?

dthoaitan: tu truoc toi gio tu khi ma cac nha khoa hoc chung minh no thi no la` dung

dthoaitan: no co the dung cung co the ko

liemsj: CON NGUOI DO VUON TIEN HOA RA, do co la khang dinh cua KhoaHoc khong?

dthoaitan: vang

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dthoaitan: no duoc cac nha khoa hoc chung minh

dthoaitan: con chung ta lai nghi khac

dthoaitan: tai vi chung ta can khai nhu the

phong_ant2002: ho chung minh the nao?

vuhoantran: nhung ma ta thu xem khong nhung con nguoi (vi con nguoi rat la nho be trong vu tru) ma trong vu tru bao la kia chi can khong co mot trat tu doi chut thoi, rat la nho thi thu nghi xem the gioi nay, vu tru nay co con ton tai duoc hay khong

dthoaitan: CHUA co the lam cho moi viec ra nhu the ma`

conloncon2002: Con nguoi do vuon tien hoa ra la khang dinh cua khoa hoctheo co la vay

liemsj: Khoa hoc, khi nghien cuu cac VAT HOA THACH, chang han nhung BO XUONG HOA THACH, cac nha khoahoc biet no... co cach day bao nhieu nam.

dthoaitan: thi ho dua vao cac ket luan cua KHOA CO HOC

dthoaitan: vang tat nhien dua vao khoa hoc co the biet duoc no la` o nien dai nao

dthoaitan: the nao ma ko dung chu

dthoaitan: no van nhu the ma`

dthoaitan: ngoai tru ...

vuhoantran: noi mot cach khac thi con Vuon o dau ma ra, no duoc tien hoa tu con nao, va cho la nguon goc so khai cua moi sinh vat tren trai dat nay phat trien tu sinh vay don bao di, thi sinh vat don bao tu dau ma co

ndk90us: thuyet tien hoa van dung vung

liemsj: Va cac nha khoa hoc khi nghien cuu nhu vay, ho thay rang, con nguoi xuat hien (nguoi ta tim duoc nhung bo xuong hoa thach... va do dac, va biet) khoang hon mot trieu nam (khoang 1.600.000 nam), con con vuon khoang 32 trieu nam (32.000.000) chang han, thay noi phong chung thoi day.

dthoaitan: co the la` phong chung nhung ma chi sai lech chut it thoi

dthoaitan: con SING VAT DONG BAO a`

phong_ant2002: nhung vu tru da co tu 20 ti nam roi

liemsj: Va nhung loai vat co xuong song.... vat huu nhu (loai vat co vu), loai vat khac theo thu tu thoi gian lau hon....

dthoaitan: the cac ban nghi sao

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dthoaitan: sao ko ai noi the nhi

vominhthu: uhm... theo Thu thi thuyet tien hoa khong con co so nua

dthoaitan: ho con co so la` sao chu

dthoaitan: the THU noi thu coi ko co co so gi nhi

phong_ant2002: sao lai noi vay ha Thu

liemsj: va cac nha khoa hoc cho la (ho gia thiet, lap thuyet): vu tru thanh hinh, trai dat thanh hinh khoang 10 ty nam (10.000.0000.000 nam), va roi vat chat vo co, vat chat huu co, vat chat vo sinh (chua co su song), vat chat huu sinh (co su song), va roi dong vat khong xuong song, dong vat co xuong song, dong vat huu nhu, v.v... vuon, va nguoi.

dthoaitan: da the thay co gi de phan bac lai ho ko a

dthoaitan: cha le nhung chung minh cua ho ve hoa thach ko dung

liemsj: Day van la thuyet vi nguoi ta khong kiem chung duoc, vi no trong khoang thoi gian QUA DAI (hang trieu trieu nam) nen no van la THUYET, tuy nhien da so nguoi deu chap nhan thuyet tien hoa la dung.

dothetruong: Thay oi .Tai sao bay gio vuon van con ,dang le no phai tien hoa het roi chu,va nguoi ta co thay con vuon nao tien hoa thanh nguoi khong ?

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quaduahaudethuong: DA CHAO MAY ANH CHI

dthoaitan: thuc te cho thay cac vat dung cua con nguoi nhung nam the ki cu deu DUNG ma`

ndk90us: yeu to tu nhien - vuon thanh nguoi

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liemsj: Mot so nguoi THEO DAO cho rang THUYET TIEN HOA noi trai lai KINHTHANH nen co gang chong lai thuyet tienhoa, nhung THAT SU, thuyet tienhoa KHONG CHONG LAI LOI DAY CUA KINH THANH.

ndk90us: thoi dai nay ko hoi du cac yeu to tu nhien nen vuon ko the tien hoa thanh nguoi

dthoaitan: vang con cung nghi the a`

dthoaitan: co the la` sau khi co cac vat do con nguoi lai duoc CHUA tao dung len

dthoaitan: va neu co tien hoa thi cung la` phai rat lau day

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dothetruong: Neu vuon tien hoa thanh nguoi thi do cung la y Chua !

dthoaitan: ko the nhu the

dthoaitan: tai vi vuon tien hoa thanh nguoi cung chi la` cac nha khoa hoc chung minh thoi

dthoaitan: minh tat nhien la` phai tin

dthoaitan: nhung ma` ko tin cung ko sao ok

dthoaitan: nhung ma` vuon ==> nguoi ko phai la` y chua

pmvanduc: co the ban dau hinh dang con nguoi rat giong loai vuon nen nguoi ta cho do cung la mot loai vuon

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kenny53m: what is this gibberish?

dthoaitan: tai vi CHUA tao ra chung ta chu ko phahi nhu the

dthoaitan: dung the day ko de nhu the dau

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dthoaitan: cac hoa thach ko noi nhuh the

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dthoaitan: ne` sao ko noi nua chu

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robehoang: ne

pmvanduc: vay theo toantri thi con nguoi duoc Thien Chua dung tay de nan len?

dothetruong: Neu anh tin o Chua _ thi anh phai tin moi su o trong lsu an bai cua Ngai

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liemsj: Trong sach SangThe, co hai trinhthuat ve tao dung, mot nam o St.1, 1-2, 4a va mot trinhthuat khac nam o St.2, 4b tro di. Trinhthuat thu nhat, do mot nguoi co hoc viet, noi ThienChua tao dung con nguoi qua LOI NOI, ngai phan mot loi la co troi dat, co con nguoi.... Con trinhthuat thu hai do nguoi binhdan viet, noi ThienChua dung tay nan con nguoi.... va thoi hoi vao de bui dat thanh nguoi. Tuy nhien ca hai trinh thuat deu muon noi THIEN CHUA TAO DUNG CON NGUOI.

dthoaitan: tat nhien la` nhu the va CHUA THO HOI THO VAO VA HO DUOC SING RA NHU THE DAY

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liemsj: KINHTHANH khong muon day con nguoi ThienChua tao dung con nguoi cach nao, ma chi day: THIEN CHUA SANG TAO CON NGUOI. The nen, hieu nhu vay, thuyet tienhoa khong trai voi KinhThanh.

ngochiends: neu noi con Nguoi tu loai Vuon ma ra la lac giao. trong Thanh Kinh Chua noi: ta sinh ra nguoi giong hinh anh Ta, va Ta biet nguoi tu khi chua hoai thai trong bung me.

dthoaitan: thay oi sao ko chu

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dthoaitan: the tu vuon ra nguoi la` ko dung a`

dthoaitan: the la` trai voi KINH THANH

liemsj: Nhung nguoi THEO DAO ho giai thich rang, ngay ca Big Bang cung do ThienChua dieu khien, viec con nguoi tien hoa tu vuon, cung do Thien Chua muon.... nen chang co sao neu chap nhan thuyet tien hoa.

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dthoaitan: va trai voi loi chua day ma`

vuhoantran: vang

dthoaitan: a` the

dthoaitan: the thi theo thay co dung la` nguoi tu VUON ra ko a

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dthoaitan: ko dau a` nghe

quang_tram2002: thien chua tao dung con nguoi bang cach thoi hoi va Loi Ngai de noi len con nguoi quan trong nhu the nao doi voi Ngai

dthoaitan: hiihihhi minh thao NGUY 100%

dthoaitan: hiihi

dthoaitan: ca dai gia ding day chu

dthoaitan: va minh thay khoa hoc DUNG thi minh noi nhuh the thoi

dthoaitan: chu bay gio ca ban co the noi cho minh nghe rqang khi chien tranh con gnuoi GIET choc lan nhau nhu the la` co toi ko

liemsj: O day, thay de tuy cac em. Tuy cac em chap nhan nhu the nao. Nhung phai noi rang, ngay ca nhung nguoi chap nhan thuyet tienhoa, ho van la nhung kito huu rat tot.... va ho khong di sai giao ly Cong giao dau.

quang_tram2002: Con nguoi lien he mat thiet voi Ngai nhu chinh Hoi Tho va Loi Ngai

dthoaitan: vang con cung dong y nhu thay a

dthoaitan: va trong so do con nghi cung co thay a

dthoaitan: la` bac hoc pasteur cung nhu the

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liemsj: Tro lai van de, mot so nguoi cho rang TC tao dung bang cach nan con nguoi.... va ho cho rang Kitogiao phan khoa hoc, thi phai tra loi ho rang. NEU HO DOC KINHTHANH THEO NGHIA DO, LA HO KHONG HIEU KINH THANH CHO LAM. CHANG HAN, NGUOI XUA NOI: hon dat nem di, hon chi nem lai, THI KHONG DUOC HIEU LA MOT NGUOI QUANG HON DAT DI, NGUOI KIA SE DI TIM CHO DUOC CUC CHI DE NEM LAI, nhung phai hieu, nguoi nay doi xu voi nguoi khac the nao, ho se doi xu nhu vay va con hon nhu vay nua.

dthoaitan: ong lao dang LAN HAT DAY

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dthoaitan: va cac ban oi khi ma anh thanh nien thao laun voi ong ve van de khoa hoc hien tai thi anh thay ong rat thong thia(chua biet la` PASTEur)SAU DO ANH HOI XIN DIA CHI

liemsj: Cho nen neu ai tin vao thuyet tien hoa, ma dung no de noi rang dao conggiao day sai, thi nguoi do chua biet doc kinhthanh. Chua hieu dung kinhthanh.

dthoaitan: va` cac ban biet gi xay ra ko anh thay xau ho vi nhung gi minh noi nay gio day va tu do thi anh ko nhu the nua

quang_tram2002: doi voi q thi khoa hoc van la cai dnag de chung ta nghi nhieu

quang_tram2002: no mang lai tien ich

quang_tram2002: va ru ngu tam hon trong tham vong

dthoaitan: cac ban co biet la` khi di chung chuyen xe voi 1 anh thanh nien,anh nay rat tin tuong vao khoa hopc va cho la` dao CONG GIAO chi la nham nhi.Va` anh thay cu gia PASTEUR dang ngoi la`m gi cac ban biet koong lao dang LAN HAT DAY va cac ban oi khi ma anh thanh nien thao laun voi ong ve van de khoa hoc hien tai thi anh thay ong rat thong thia(chua biet la` PASTEur)SAU DO ANH HOI XIN DIA CHIva` cac ban biet gi xay ra ko anh thay xau ho vi nhung gi minh noi nay gio day va tu do thi anh ko nhu the nua

dthoaitan: tan noi lai de cac ban de doc nhe

liemsj: Nhung em con dang hien dien tai phong nay, co hieu dieu thay noi khong vay? Tuy em tin thuyet tienhoa hay khong, nhung cho du co em nao tin thuyet tienhoa la dung, thi phai biet la dao cong giao khong trai khoa hoc chut nao ca, khong phan khoa hoc chut nao ca.

liemsj: Dao Conggiao khong he phan khoa hoc.

dthoaitan: thay oi the thi nguoi tu vuon ra ma` ko phai la` sai voi GIAO ly a`

liemsj: Ve dieu nay, cac em co phai hoi them dieu gi khong?

dthoaitan: nhung the cac thu trong vu tru va van vat thi la` do chua dung len thi sao a cung 1 luc day thay a

dthoaitan: vang cung 1 luc

dthoaitan: nhung voi khoa hoc ko pahi la nhu hte

dthoaitan: ma` la` tu tu

ndk90us: Niem tin - biet chap nhan

dthoaitan: wa nhieu trieu trieu nam

quang_tram2002: niem tin ton giao khong tach roi vao khoa hoc

dothetruong: Trieu trieu nam voi Chua chang la gi !

quang_tram2002: khoa hoc de cung co niem tin

quang_tram2002: nhin vao nhung bien co khoa hoc

dothetruong: Chung ta van con dang trong chuong tring cua Ngai co ma !

liemsj: Kinhthanh dau co day KhoaHoc. ThienChua ban cho con nguoi ly tri, Ngai muon con nguoi dung ly tri de chinh phuc vu tru nay. Kinhthanh dau co nham de day mat troi quay quanh trai dat hay trai dat quay quanh mat troi. Kinhthanh day con duong len troi... ai doi kinhthanh day khoahoc, la khong hieu gi ve kinhthanh day.

dthoaitan: dung the nhung ma` CHUA dung len trong 1 LUC day

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quang_tram2002: chung ta phai cam ta Chua vi Ngai da mac khai cho chung ta va ban cho chung ta nhung su ho tro cho cuoc song

dothetruong: Co ai noi bay gio la Thien Chua hoan thanh qua tring tao dung cua Ngai dau ?

dthoaitan: nhung tahy chua tra loi con ma` thay

quang_tram2002: Neu nhin vao bao the ky con gnuoi

quang_tram2002: chugn ta se de dang nhan thay tung thoi ky deu co mot vi nhan xuat hien

quang_tram2002: va tao ra nhung thanh tuu khoa hoc

quang_tram2002: roi khi di sau vao khoa hoc con nguoi moi thay su bao la

liemsj: Dao Conggiao day la: Tat ca deu do ThienChua tao dung, deu do ThienChua ma co.... Nhung Thien Chua khong o cung binh dien voi cac tao vat, NEN KHONG THE HOI, vay ThienChua do ai tao dung.

dthoaitan: con dau co hoi la` thien chua do ai tao ra dau

quang_tram2002: trong te bao co phan tu

quang_tram2002: trong phan tu co nguyen tu

quang_tram2002: va cang ngay cang xuat hien nhung hat nho hon nguyen tu

dthoaitan: con chi hoi la` khi CHUA dung len thi la` cung 1 luc nhung ma` khoa hoa< la` tu tu tien hoa wa nhieu trieu trieu nam co

quang_tram2002: do la dieu ma q cam nhan va THien Chua

quang_tram2002: con nguoi ngay nay dua vao khoa hoc nhung van chi la kham pha xung quanh thoi

quang_tram2002: chu chua the tao dung nen bat ky dieu gi

dthoaitan: sao ko chu

ndk90us: co day chu

dthoaitan: ho tao nen rat nhieu dieu ki dieu day chu

ndk90us: thu tinh nhan tao

quang_tram2002: do do Khoa hoc van phai cay dua vao duc tin

quang_tram2002: Va Thien Chua

dthoaitan: nhu la di vao khong gian do thoi

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quang_tram2002: ban thu noi mot vai dien hinh?

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dthoaitan: va` do la` thanh tuu rat rat wuan trong

quang_tram2002: vay ban nghi gi khi ma nha du hanh dau tien khi dat chan len mat trang?

dthoaitan: ban co the nghi gi khi ho lam duoc nhu the

quang_tram2002: ong ta da noi la ong ta tin vao mot dang tao hoa

quang_tram2002: vi ban biet chac chan neu ban bo ong tho

quang_tram2002: ban se tan thanh tro bui

dthoaitan: khi ma` chi noi viec bay len troi thoi cung du la` wa kho roi day

vuhoantran: Moi nguoi oi toi nua moi vao

quang_tram2002: do cung chi la mot viec kham pha the gioi xung quanh

liemsj: Tai sao em (thoaitan) lai doc la kinhthanh day ThienChua tao dung trong mot luc? Kinhthanh dau day dieu do, cung nhu dau day con nguoi co nhu the nao. Em khong thay hai trinh thuat cua Kinhthanh noi khac nhau do a? Mot noi ThienChua dung LOI de tao dung, Ngai noi la moi su lien co... va cai khac noi KIEU RAT NHAN HINH la ThienChua phai nan.... Tc la Dang vo hinh, dau co tay dau ma nan? ....

dthoaitan: vang va con nhieu nhieu nua

dthoaitan: chang han nhu la` viec SINH SAN VO TINH o dang vat va dac biet la` CON NGUOI

quang_tram2002: sinh san vo tinh?>

liemsj: Co ai hoi them gi nuakhong vay?

quang_tram2002: Ban nghe gi ve cuu Dolly?

dthoaitan: VANG NHUNG ma` khi tao dung thi chua tao dung trong 7 ngay day a

ndk90us: con nguoi se thay dang sang tao chang2

dthoaitan: chua da day nhu the day

quang_tram2002: cunbg khong the song khi ma te bao chu da gia

dthoaitan: uh nhung ma` ko sao dau

dthoaitan: chi las` 1 trong nhung chung binh thoi

dthoaitan: ho se co cah khac phuc thoi

ndk90us: khi tao ra con nguoi theo y minh !

dthoaitan: the ban co nghi la ki dieu ko

quang_tram2002: vay thi ban hay thu nghi ve su chet?

quang_tram2002: su chet la dieu lam ton vinh dang tao hoa

liemsj: Tung con do khong? Nho Tung cho cau hoi len lai giup thay di.

quang_tram2002: theo nhu qiuang nghi l anhu vbay

TungSoft: da

dthoaitan: the ban CHET bao gio chua ha???

TungSoft: (ii) dao CongGiao la dao cua phuong Tay, nhung nguoi CongGiao mu qua'ng va co khuynh huong phan boi dat nuoc, dang bi cac nuoc phuong Tay loi dung de xam chiem dat nuoc. Ban tra loi va gioi thich sao voi nhung loi phe binh tren?

quang_tram2002: vay khi ban gap mot nguoi chet

quang_tram2002: hoac sap chet

dthoaitan: thi sao chu

dothetruong: ho co the tao ra nhieu dieu ky dieu .Nhung tat ca deu phai dua tren nhung cai da co san.Vd nhu sinh san vo tinh phai co te bao truoc...Con TC Ngai tao dung tu hu khong ma ra .

dthoaitan: ko co gi xay ra ca

quang_tram2002: ban co so chet ko?

TungSoft: Thay o, cho con hoi, la con nguoi duoc tien hoa tu loai Vuon, vay Vuon co duoc ThienChua cuu ro~i ko ?

quang_tram2002: ban co nghi la mot ngay nao do ban cung se chet?

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dthoaitan: vang nhung ma` nhu the thi minh chi noi la` khoa hoc ki dieu thoi ma`

quang_tram2002: vay ban da co dip nao benh that nang chua?

dthoaitan: the ban da thay CHUA tao nen chung ta chua

quang_tram2002: uh

dthoaitan: do la` chung ta tin nhu the nen chi tin thoi

dthoaitan: tat nhien la` chua

quang_tram2002: vay ban nghi gi ve hoi tho cua minh?

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dthoaitan: minh khoe manh va` rat tot

liemsj: ThienChua hua cho con nguoi su song doi doi, khong phai hua cho con vat. Tung a.

quang_tram2002: ban co nghi neu ngung tho se van song chang?

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dthoaitan: vang toi cung nghi nhu the

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dthoaitan: nhung chua thu va ko dam thu hihihi

dthoaitan: nhung chi nghi thoi chu chua ai biet ca

dthoaitan: the co ai noi voi ban la` ho biet chua ha

quang_tram2002: ban co bao gio nhin nhung dieu mat thay tai nghe va tu hoi vi sao minh co mat chang?

quang_tram2002: vi sao minh lai nhin thay nhung dieu nay

dthoaitan: vang nhung do la` nhugn su viec khac

liemsj: Cac em than men, cau hoi ve tuong quan giua ductin va khoa hoc, giua kinhthanh va khoa hoc, giua thuyet tien hoa va kinhthanh nhu o tren, cac em da thay thoa dang chua? CO AI CAN HOI THEM DIEU GI KHONG?

dthoaitan: con cai CHET thi la` 1 thu ma` KO AI co the noi duoc chi noi cho co thoi ban a`

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dthoaitan: tat nhien la` co con con van chua thoa man a

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dthoaitan: theo khoa hoc thi la` tu tu tien hoa cu cho la` con nguoi tu vuon ma` ra hoac ko tin cung duoc nhung ma` khi CHUA tao dung thi trong 1 luc do thoi the thi la` ko dung voi khoa hoc roi

phong_ant2002:

dthoaitan: va` con nhieu dieu nua ko dung

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liemsj: Con co doc nhung cau thay viet dua len khong thoaitan? thay so con chua doc qua... con doc di va tra loi nhe. Con chua thoa man ve dieu gi? Con dieu gi con chua thoa man? con khuc mac?

ndk90us: con co nhieu cau hoi - nhung con chi co mot niem tin

quang_tram2002: theo quang nghi thi moi su deu co su sap dat

dthoaitan: da con doc roi a

quang_tram2002: va chi co niem tin moi dem cho con nguoi di dung duong

liemsj: thay tra loi cau do roi ma thoaitan, con chua doc roi. thay dau co hieu nhu con hieu dau!!!

quang_tram2002: khi con nguoi lam khoa hoc

dthoaitan: co hai nguoi viet nhung ma` con thay la` CHUA day la` chua tao dung len con nguoi trong 1 thoi gian ngan ma`

quang_tram2002: con nguoi cung phai tin vao dieu minh nghi

quang_tram2002: mac du dung sai van khong the quyet dinh duoc

quang_tram2002: va khong the phan biet

liemsj: Chua day o dau vay thoaitan?

dthoaitan: da tat nhie la` KHAP moi noi

dthoaitan: da ko co a

dthoaitan: trong kinh thanh day a

liemsj: cho nao con? thoaitan?

dthoaitan: da cho theo nhu KINH CUU UOC A

dthoaitan: do la` chua dung len con nguoi trong 7 ngay

dthoaitan: va con cung chi nghe CHA o noi con noi nhu

dthoaitan: the chu ko he noi khac a

liemsj: Con doc chua ky doan kinhthanh roi, ve doc lai di. Do la doan St.1, 1-2, 4a do. Doan do, thay da viet o tren roi do.

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dthoaitan: Trong sach SangThe, co hai trinhthuat ve tao dung, mot nam o St.1, 1-2, 4a va mot trinhthuat khac nam o St.2, 4b tro di. Trinhthuat thu nhat, do mot nguoi co hoc viet, noi ThienChua tao dung con nguoi qua LOI NOI, ngai phan mot loi la co troi dat, co con nguoi.... Con trinhthuat thu hai do nguoi binhdan viet, noi ThienChua dung tay nan con nguoi.... va thoi hoi vao de bui dat thanh nguoi. Tuy nhien ca hai trinh thuat deu muon noi

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liemsj: Tung cho cau hoi len giup thay lan nua di, de thay hoi cac ban.

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dthoaitan: da phan 1 loi lla` co troi co dat

TungSoft: (i) dao CongGiao phan khoa hoc, vi khoa hoc cho biet con nguoi tien hoa tu vuon, ma dao CongGiao day con nguoi do ThienChua tao thanh;

dthoaitan: nhung ma` thay oi con thay la` cac CHA khi giang deu noi nhu the a

dthoaitan: ko khac dau

dthoaitan: con trong kinh thanh con cung thay the s

liemsj: Con oi, phan mot loi la co anh sang, phan mot loi la co bau troi... va phan mot loi la co con nguoi.....

dthoaitan: la` CHUA dung len 7 ngay a

dthoaitan: ngay thu 7 nguoi nghi ngoi a

liemsj: Thoaitan, do cung la cach noi Tc dung tay nan con nguoi tu bun dat... nen con khong duoc hieu theo nghia den nhu vay. Neu hieu theo nghia den nhu vay... la con chua hieu kinhthanh day, va hieu sai kinhthanh do. Nguoi ta van dung dieu do de noi, nhung phai hieu.... cho dung day.

dthoaitan: the con muon hieu them thi phai lam sao a

quang_tram2002: cach tra loi hay nhat theo quang nghi do la hay tao nhung cau hoi trong noi chuyen theo nhung y nguoi ta noi

liemsj: Cac ban khac thay the nao nhi? Co nghi giong thoaitan khong?

quang_tram2002: neu dao la chan ly thi se khong di vao ngo cut

quang_tram2002: neu khoa hoc la chan ly thi khoa hoc se khong di vao ngo cut

dthoaitan: con chua thay ai noi nhu THAY CA

dthoaitan: nha` con cung co cha nhung ma` ko noi nhu the a

liemsj: Cac em than men, cac em thay can phai hoi them, co dieu gi khong thoa dang thi cu noi nhe.... cu viet cho len nhe... cu hoi de lam sang len nhe.

quang_tram2002: theo quang nghi neu muon cung co niem tin hay tu hoi minh nhung bien co xay ra xung quanh

quang_tram2002: do la tu kham pha de them tin tuog

liemsj: Thay cung can cac em cho biet nhung van nan cua cac em gap ve duc tin, de no tro thanh de tai chia se cua cac em nhe.

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quang_tram2002: con nguoi con co luc di vao ngo cut(chet)

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quang_tram2002: thi lay gi dam bao ly thuyet lkhoa hoc do con nguoi tao ra se khong be tac

ndk90us: neu nhu nha thau nao cung giong nhu nha thau VN

quang_tram2002: dieu ma quang con thieu sot rat nhieu do la su khiem nhuong

quang_tram2002: tu cho minh yeu duoi

liemsj: Bay gio, co em nao thay co nhung de tai can trao doi, cac em viet cho thay di. De thay dua no lam de tai chia se cho cac em trong tuong lai.

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liemsj: Lan toi cac em co muon trao doi cau hoi ve phan 2 khong? Tung cho len giup thay di.

luyen2908ten: cam on ban

luyen2908ten: do la loi noidoi

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quang_tram2002: em nghi de tai nay cugn co nhieu dieu de ban do thay

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vuhoantran: do la mot quan diem co phan dung ma cung co phan sai

quang_tram2002: vi van de dao xuat phat tu phuong tay nen nuoc minh moi co nhieu thanh tu dao

liemsj: Cac em co muon ban ve detai nay lan toi khong?

vuhoantran: da muon a

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quang_tram2002: rieng em cho la do se la mot de tai thu vi

ndk90us: va rat bo ich + bo sung

liemsj: Quangtram va tranhoanvu cho y kien: muon. nen chung ta se ban trong lan toi nhe.

liemsj: Cac em tiep tuc cho thay de tai nhe, vi de tai cac em cho, se thich hop voi cac em nhieu hon.

dthoaitan: con cung muon

liemsj: Bay gio la 8:15 roi, thay caunguyen ket thuc nhe. Sau do cac em tu do chat voi nhau.

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conloncon2002: Thoi con chin chao thay ,cac anh chi cung cac banmot giac ngu ngon

liemsj: Co the viet de tai cho thay qua diachi email nay nhe: [email protected]

liemsj: Lay Chua, chung con ta on Chua da cho chung con gio chia se vua qua.

dothetruong: DA

dothetruong: Con cam on Thay

liemsj: Xin ThanhThan ThienChua tiep tuc o voi chung con, de day do va huong dan chung con trong cuoc song.

liemsj: Xin cho chung con hieu biet hon ve Chua, de co the giup nguoi khac hieu hon ve Chua.

liemsj: Xin cho chung con hieu dung, de dieu chung con noi ve Chua khong ngan tro nguoi khac den voi Chua.

liemsj: Xin cho chung con o sau trong tinh yeu cua Chua va cua con nguoi.

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liemsj: Chugn con cau xin, nhan danh duc Yesu Kito Chua chung con.

liemsj: Amen.

TungSoft: Amen

phong_ant2002: Amen.

quang_tram2002: amen

ndk90us: Amen

vuhoantran: Amen

vominhthu: Amen

dothetruong: Amen

dthoaitan: amen

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