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angiangsi: Chao con.
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angiangsi: Chao Truong nhe.
mnguyetbl: chao moi nguoi
angiangsi: Chao Gam nhe. Cam on
con.
chuoixanh042003: con chao cha, em
chao anh Truong, chi nguyet
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angiangsi: Cac ban doc detai noi
trang http://www.Giuse Phạm Thanh Liκm, S.J.sj.net muc chia se
loi chua qua internet nhe.
angiangsi: Chung ta bat dau duoc
chua? Hay can cho them ha cac em?
angiangsi: Tung mo trang web do
duoc khong vay?
luuly034: thang em mat net
TungSoft: da. . . chua. dang
download
angiangsi: Lau the? Thuc su no la http://www.Giuse Phạm Thanh Liκm, S.J..org do.
visaouoc: con cung dang mo. . .
. .
visaouoc: the thi tot qua, tao
dieu kien cho cac ban tham gia duoc nhieu. . .
luuly034: thoi di Tung
angiangsi: Bay gio thay caunguyen
de bat dau nhe. Sau do cac em se gioi thieu.
luuly034: vang
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angiangsi: Lay Chua, chung con ta
on Chua da cho chung con giay phut nay, da cho chung con duoc nhu hien tai de
co the dung phuong tien hien dai nhat de chia se, de hoc hoi, de nang do nhau.
Xin Cha ban ThanhThan cho chung con, giup chung con mo long don nhan nhung gi
Chua muon chi day chung con. Xin cho chung con moi ngay mot tro nen tuyet voi
hon, xung voi con chau cua cac bac cha anh chung con. Chung con cauxin, nho Duc
Kito, Chua chung con.
angiangsi: Amen.
chuoixanh042003: Amen
visaouoc: amen
mnguyetbl: amen
angiangsi: Va bay gio, moi cac em
gioi thieu. Coi nhu cac ban chua biet minh, nen cac em gioi thieu sao de cac
ban biet em la ai, phai xung ho la anh, hay chi, hay em. . . . . Co gang viet
thanh mot hang, roi hay cho len nhe.
ptoanh83: amen
TungSoft: Amen
hy_vong_xanh2000 joined the room
ngoisaohivong85_qn joined the room
angiangsi: Pham Thanh Liem, tu si.
hoanua29822000: da em ten la thuy
hoc truong dhtn lop thu y k02
angiangsi: Chao con nhe:
ngoisaohyvong. Lau lam roi moi thay con. Khoe khong?
TungSoft: TranThanhTung, 1979, ky
su ma'y ti'nh
hy_vong_xanh2000: con chao thay
visaouoc: mung Khoa (
ngoisaohyvong). . .
hoanua29822000: thay oi hom truoc
con co hoi thay nhieu lam thay con nho ko?
chuoixanh042003: Con la Tran Gam,
SV DH Quy Nhon nam 2
hy_vong_xanh2000: chao tat ca anh
chi em
angiangsi: Ho va ten lot cua Thuy
la gi vay? Truong dhtn viet tat boi chu nao em Thuy?
luuly034: NGUYEN LOI DAN () 1977
hien dang hoc tai Nhat Ban
luuly034: que goc BMT
ngoisaohivong85_qn: chao cac ban
angiangsi: DaiHoc Tay Nguyen, phai
khong nhi?
ngoisaohivong85_qn: cho minh chia
se voi nhe
hy_vong_xanh2000: thay oi co phai
thay noi voi con khong?
visaouoc: NGuyen Van TRuong, SV
nam cuoi, DH QUy NHON
angiangsi: Hyvongxanh: Dung phai
khong con?
luuly034: nam 1998 da gap thay o
BMT cung voi cha Kien
..
ngoisaohivong85_qn: pham tan khoa,
TC CONG NHIEP KI THUAT TUY HOA
kimluy_16 joined the room
luuly034: da nho hon a
angiangsi: Trat roi, tuong
ngoisaohyvong la. . . . nguoi ma minh cung quen ten nhung chi nho mat thoi! ! !
! !
ptoanh83: Con la Oanh.
angiangsi: Chao KimLuy nhe. Dang
muc gioi thieu do.
ptoanh83: thanh Hoa.
kimluy_16: con chao Thay cung cac
anh chi em con la THAO o QUI NHON
angiangsi: Co ai muon HOI GI NHAU
xin cu tu nhien, chung ta co 3 phut cho muc "tham hoi" nay.
ngoisaohivong85_qn: THAY oi cho em
hoi la khi chua GIESU chua xuong tran lam nguoi loai nguoi chung ta co cam nhan
la co mot thien chua la ngoi thu 2 ko?
hy_vong_xanh2000: thay oi thay
biet ve con chua vay?
hy_vong_xanh2000: con la diep hoc
o Quy nhon
luuly034: co le trong ngay ngoai
tungsoft va thay con nho mang mang ve em, con lai co le khong biet em
angiangsi: Gioi thieu di
Hyvongxanh2000
visaouoc: de tai chia se hom
nay:1. Ban phuc cac Thanh Tu dao Viet Nam nhat o diem nao? 2. Dau la diem khac
biet giua nhung vi Ki to huu Tu Dao va nhung nguoi chet vi mot ly tuong nao do?
3. Mot so nguoi cho rang cac nguoi Tu Dao la nhung nguoi vua ngu, vua bat hieu
vua khong lam tron nghia vu lam chong lam cha lam con. Ban tra loi sao voi
nhung loi chi trich nay?
chuoixanh042003: hy vong xanh ko
phai la Dung ma la anh Diep o Qn thay a
hy_vong_xanh2000: con hoc cung lop
voi em GAm
hy_vong_xanh2000: voi Thao
angiangsi: Cam on Gam nhieu nhe.
angiangsi: Hy vong se co dip gap
Diep.
chuoixanh042003: da ko co gi dau a
luuly034: va Dan xin duoc biet
them ve moi nguoi duoc khong
angiangsi: Chung ta chia se cau
thu 1 nhe. Moi nguoi co gang dong nao de dua len suy nghi tu tuong cua minh. Co
nhu vay, phong chia se cua chung ta se song dong hon.
tinhtuyen84 joined the room
visaouoc: Diep cung la thanh vien
cua CLC Quy NHon 2
hy_vong_xanh2000: con hay di hoc
vao buoi toi nen it co dip
hy_vong_xanh2000: con cung hi vang
vay
tinhtuyen84: chao Thay va all em
la`. . . . . . . . . . . . . em chi Kim Phuong
hy_vong_xanh2000: ca mon anh Ai
visaouoc: 1. Ban phuc cac Thanh Tu
dao Viet Nam nhat o diem nao?
ngoisaohivong85_qn: theo minh thi
cac thanh tu dao la di tim chan li noi theo buoc chan cua chua kito
ptoanh83: Khong Hieu?
visaouoc: con phuc cac Thanh Tu
Dao nhat la luon tin tuong, pho tac vao Chua mot cach tuyet doi, Chet cho mot
niem tin, vi CHua Ki To
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(*. *) (^. ^) (khanhtuan20_02)
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angiangsi: Nghia la sao ho Diep?
Noi ro hon di. Tai sao do la dieu ban phuc noi cac thanh tu dao? Nhung nguoi
khac co di tim chan ly khong? Chang han cac nha khoa hoc?
(*. *) (^. ^): Chao Thay va cac
ban
visaouoc: ngoisaohivong la Khoa o
Phu Yen, con hyvong_xanh moi la Diep Thay a. . .
hy_vong_xanh2000: theo em do chinh
la long dung cam, long tin tuyet doi vao thien Chua
giacatluong862004 joined the room
hy_vong_xanh2000: chinh long tin
da gup cac ngai vuot qua tat ca tham chi ca cai chet cac ngai van khong so
chuoixanh042003: Con phuc cac
Thanh tu dao o long tin, long tin ma cac Ngai danh cho TC den noi bat chap ca
mang song minh, cac Ngai con quang dai de dap tra loi moi goi cua Chua: Ai tim
mang song minh thi se mat con ai lieu mang song vi Thay thi se duoc song. . .
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chuoixanh042003: Cac ngai con co
mot tinh yeu lon lao danh cho Tc nua. .
luuly034: dieu Dan cam thay phuc
nhat do chinh la su dam chet cho mot niem tin
angiangsi: Chao Tuan nhe. Moi chia
se nhe. De tai o http://www.Giuse Phạm Thanh Liκm, S.J.sj.net
visaouoc: dong y voi Gam, voi
luuly
angiangsi: Cac vi tu dao TIN GI
NOI THIEN CHUA vay Gam?
angiangsi: Cac vi tudao tin gi vay
Dan?
ptoanh83: Theo con do la Tin Vao
Tinh Yeu THien Chua.
angiangsi: Moi Truong, Thanh Hoa,
khong phai visaouoc, ma la giacatluong, chia se nhe.
mnguyetbl: con cam phuc Cac Thanh
ay vi Cac Thanh ay biet vang phuc va luon luon san sang
zxcv_zxcv52 left the room
giacatluong862004: da
luuly034: cac thanh tu dao VN dam
chet cho mot niem tin, ma theo nguoi doi va con mat binh thuong thi do la mot
dieu khong co thuc.
ngoisaohivong85_qn: theo em do
chinh la la nguoi ko can toi mang song cua minh, khi quyet dinh theo chua la bo
tat ca ko co quyen luyen dang sau cua minh
angiangsi: Oanh oi, tin vao Thien
Chua, hay tin vao tinh yeu ThienChua? Hai dieu nay khac nhau the nao nhi?
chuoixanh042003: Con nghi cac vi
ay tin rang chi nhung gi xuat phat tu Tc moi dem lai cho cac ngai su song dich
thuc, cac ngai tin rang mang song cua cac ngai la boi Tc ma co nen cac ngai ko
tiec gi khi phai hy sinh mang song ay cho Tc
angiangsi: Nguyet oi, vang phuc
gi? va san sang lam gi vay?
hopewillf: roi tim thay roi
ptoanh83: Cung co kghac Thay a.
mnguyetbl: duong nhu do chinh la
long tin tuyet doi vao TC
chuoixanh042003: Con nghi cac ngai
con tin rang cung dich cua doi minh chinh la TC nen khi cac ngai chet di cung
la luc cac ngai tim ve voi dich cua minh, ve voi su song va hanh phuc dich
thuc. .
ptoanh83: Tin vao Tinh Yeu co
nghia la nhin nhan Thien Chua cach toan dien. . . Con tin vao Thien Chua khong
thi moi chi co mot be thoi. . .
(*. *) (^. ^): theo minh thi tin
thoi thi chua du dau Oanh oi
chuoixanh042003: Con cung dong y
voi co Oanh la cac ngai tin vao tinh yeu cua TC
(*. *) (^. ^): cac Ngai con song
dieu cac Ngai tin nua
visaouoc: Cac Thanh Tu Dao luon la
tam guong sang cho cac KiTo huu noi theo ve niem tin, cac Ngai luon trung thanh
voi niem tin, dung cai chet de chung minh cho niem tin do. . .
(*. *) (^. ^): va dac biet la
trung thanh voi to quoc
chuoixanh042003: Tin vao tinh yeu
cua Tc nghi la tin rang TC yeu minh, hi sinh tat ca ve minh, tat ca cho hanh
phuc cua minh. .
angiangsi: Moi nguoi cac ban da
tra loi cau thu nhat roi chua? "ban phuc cac thanh tu dao vietnam o diem
nao nhat? "
visaouoc: cac Ngai luon la nhan
chung tinh yeu song dong cua CHua Ki To cho moi thoi dai
ngoisaohivong85_qn: diem khac biet
giua nguoi vi thanh ki to huu tu dao va nhung nguoi chet vi mot ly tuong la
nguoi ki to huu la nhung nguoi biet hi sinh va buoc theo con duong cua chua con
nhung nguoi chet vi li tuong nao do cu the la hi sinh ve dat nuoc hay gi day
luuly034: de tra loi cac thanh tin
gi thi chung ta van thuong noi tin vao Thien Chua, vao Loi Chua. cac thanh da
tin rang se tim duoc con duong di den voi nguoi tinh yeu dich that - tinh yeu
thi ai cung can ca.
angiangsi: Sau khi doc cac y kien
cua cac ban khac, ban co thay doi cai nhin cua ban khong?
giacatluong862004: minh cung dong
y rang neu chi tin thoi thi ko du
hy_vong_xanh2000: con cung dong y
voi Gam:cac ngai co niem tin tuyet doi vao ThienChua
hoanua29822000: hom nay T hoc hoi
hen bua sau Tse chia se cung moi nguoi!
(*. *) (^. ^): phuc nhat la o chu
cac ngai da song dieu minh tin
(*. *) (^. ^): dam hi sinh mang
song de bao ve duc tin cua minh
ptoanh83: Cac Thanh tu Dao da Biet
pho thac doi minh de lam chung cho Tinh Yeu Thien CHua. . .
mariatvan joined the room
angiangsi: Neu cac ban thay diem
cac ban kinh phuc cac thanh tu dao, thi cac ban tra loi sao voi nhung nguoi cho
rang. . . Nho Truong cho cau 3 len giup thay voi.
visaouoc: 3, MOt so nguoi cho rang
cac nguoi Tu Dao la nhung nguoi vua ngu, vua bat hieu vua khong lam tron nghia
vu lam chong lam cha lam con. Ban tra loi sao voi nhung loi chio trich nay?
angiangsi: Cac ban phuc cac thanh
tu dao, nhung co nhung nguoi che cac thanh tu dao. Ban tra loi sao?
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(*. *) (^. ^): theo minh thi dieu
nay ko dung
mydarling114: xin chao tat ca cac
ban
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mydarling114: minh vua moi vao
thoi
. .
. .
kesocodon: vang
giacatluong862004: neu nhu ban
chua biet gi ve C
kesocodon: ban cu noi di
giacatluong862004: thi hang ngay
truoc khi di ngu
ngoisaohivong85_qn: xin moi cac
ban cung chia se
giacatluong862004: ban hay thinh
lang va ngoi mot minh
kesocodon: vang
giacatluong862004: ban hay nguoc
mat len troi ma noi rang
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giacatluong862004: thua dang KITO
ngai la ai ma toi chua duoc biet ngai
angiangsi: Moi cac ban cho biet
cau tra loi voi nhung nguoi cho rang cac thanh tu dao la nguoi NGU, BAT HIEU
VOI CHA GIA ME YEU, VO TRACH NHIEM DOI VOI CON CAI VA NGUOI BAN DOI CUA MINH?
Da danh do la quan diem cua ho, nhung ban tra loi nhung nguoi do the nao?
visaouoc: xin moi cac ban tiep tuc
chia se :3, MOt so nguoi cho rang cac nguoi Tu Dao la nhung nguoi vua ngu, vua
bat hieu vua khong lam tron nghia vu lam chong lam cha lam con. Ban tra loi sao
voi nhung loi chio trich nay?
hy_vong_xanh2000: neu noi hi sinh
nhu vay la khong lam chon nghia vu cua nguoi chong, nguoi cha. nguoi con, thi
thu hoi nhung nhuoi hi sinh ngoai chien truong cung la su hi sinh vo ich sao
theo con quan nien do can phai bac bo
ptoanh83: Biet Ve Chua Thi Khong
Kho Ty nao. . . Nhung ban a cung khong de doi voi nhung nguoi co tu tuong chong
doi. . .
angiangsi: Cac ban men, hay viet
thanh mot hang, voi y tuong cua minh. . . dung viet dang do roi cho len, cac
ban khac khong thay ro y cua minh.
kesocodon joined the room
giacatluong862004: minh se hoi ho
rang theo cac ban thi the nao moi la nguoi con hieu thao, la mot nguoi thong
minh, la mot nguoi cha tot
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mnguyetbl: se co cau tra loi la
ban co sang sanglam moi thu cho dep nguoi minh yeu hay k? va vi long tin cua
nguoi ki to huu luon san sang vi chung toi tin rang TC se yeu thuong nhung
nguuoi than yeu cua chung toi
ptoanh83: day cung la van de kho
noi doi voi chung con. . .
giacatluong862004: co phai cu la
phai o ben cha me, gia dinh moi la nguoi con hieu thao
visaouoc: y cua Nguyet minh thay
hay lam. .
hoanua29822000: theo thuy tra loi
cau hoi cua nguoi thac mac cau hoi cac thanh tu dao la:"the hai nguoi hoan
toan xa la tai sao nguoi ta ngu the, co ho hang than thuoc gi dau ma ho lai yeu
nhau dam chet vi nhau? nhu vay co phai ngu khong chu?
giannyo_69 joined the room
angiangsi: Y hay do, Truong
(giacatluong), tiep tuc trien khai y do de tra loi, va soi sang cho cac ban
khac di.
ptoanh83: Con Thay chi nen noi ve
Ly tuong cua cac Thanh do la Ho tin tuong tuyet doi vao niem tin. . . Ho khong
ngu vi ho hanh dong co ly tuong. Ho khong bat hieu vi ho khong lam nhung dieu
nguoc dao ly. . co the hoc con lam cho cha me hai long vi hanh dongcua minh.
visaouoc: " ko co tinh yeu
nao cao qui hon tinh cua nguoi giam hy sdih mang song minh vi nguoi minh yeu. .
"Chang le minh chet cho mot tinh yeu mot niem tin la ngu, la khong lam
tron bon phan. . hay sao?
giacatluong862004: cam on thay
giannyo_69 left the room
kesocodon left the room
giacatluong862004: thay vi o ben
gia dinh de roi se chang duoc gi ca, cac ngai da ra di theo tieng goi cua thien
chua va su hi sinh cua cac ngai ko chi dem lai hanh phuc cho mot nguoi ma cho
tat ca moi nghuoi chua nhan biet C,
mnguyetbl: moi nguoi tiep tuc di
kimluy_16: CO NHIEU NGUOI CUNG
CHET VI MOT NIEM TIN MOT LI TUONG NAO DO NHUNG VA HO CUNG BI CHO LA NGU LNHUNG
VOI CAC THANH NIEM TIN CUA HO KO HE MU QUANG
wmns2004 joined the room
visaouoc: Co Thanh nhan nao Chet
ma Cha me goi con minh la bat hieu, vo con trach chong la vo trach nhiem. .
chua? nguoc lai nhung nguoi than nhan cua cac Ngai luon tu hoa, vui mung. . .
vi nguoi con, nguoi chong cua minh da chet da lam nhan chung tin yeu cua TC.
duyvietnam2000 joined the room
angiangsi: Co le moi ban thu tra
loi voi ho xem: the nao la nguoi ngu, the nao la nguoi khon? Ngu he tai dau, va
khon he tai dau? Bat hieu he tai dau va co hieu he tai dau? Nguoi cha nguoi me
tot, la nguoi nhu the nao? Nguoi chong nguoi vo tot, la nguoi nhu the nao? Vay.
. . . . nhung loi phe binh cua ho dung hay sai!
luuly034: Co le neu chung ta can
cau tra loi cho su chi trich nay thi D nghi rang, nen noi voi nguoi dang chi
trich do rang, " ban hay song that su va hay yeu that su" ban se hieu
tai sao cac thanh tu dao lai chet. Nhung cung can phai noi ro, chet vi chinh
nghia, vi tinh yeu chet de nguoi khac duoc song. Chu khong phai chet vi mot ly
tuong mu quang ma chung ta van dang thay ton tai tren the gioi ngay nay ( khung
bo, tu sat tap the, . . . )
(*. *) (^. ^): khi lap an phong
thanh cho mot so vi cha me da ra lam chung va con tu hao ve nguoi con da tu dao
cua minh nua
ptoanh83: Theo Y cua Truong em;
Thi con cung dong y co the di theo huong do. Nhieu nguoi dau phai cu giu gin
ban than minh, song lam lui o nha la nhung nguoi co hieu. . . Nguoi con co hieu
la phai biet lam cho cha me vui long. . . chunh su Hy sinh cua cac Ngai da dem
lai niem tin, cung co niem tin cho nhieu con chien khac. .
(*. *) (^. ^): minh ko nho thanh
nao nua
chuoixanh042003: Con nghi su khon
ngoan xuat phat tu Tc, nhu vay khi chet di cac thanh da lua chon TC thi cac
ngai phai la nguoi lua chon phan tot nhat chu ko phai la nguoi ngu dot
canhnhancodon4 joined the room
angiangsi: Tai sao vay Thao
(kimluy)? Tai sao voi nguoi khac thi ngu, con voi cac thanh thi khong?
ngoisaohivong85_qn left the room
(*. *) (^. ^): nhung khi nghe tin
con minh tu dao, hinh nhu la me o Tay Ban Nha ta on Chua vi con minh dc phuc tu
dao
ngoisaohivong85_qn joined the room
giacatluong862004: vay thi ban se
chon mot ben la moi nguoi nho ban ma co hanh phauc hay la moi nguoi ko nhan
duoc tinh yeu cua TC,
visaouoc: y cua anh Dan hay lam. .
.
(*. *) (^. ^): nhu the thi. . . .
ko co chuyen gi de noi la cac thanh tu dao la bat hieu ca
ngoisaohivong85_qn: uh theo minh
cung vayt
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kimluy_16 joined the room
(*. *) (^. ^): nhu the chang the
nao bao cac ngai la ngu dc
ho_ha2006 joined the room
visaouoc: de lam ro cau hoi tren,
cac ban co the tra loi cau 2. Dau la diem khac biet giua nhung vi Thanh Ki to
huu Tu Dao va nhung nguoi chet vi mot ly tuong nao do?
chuoixanh042003: chua co noi rang
ke nao yeu quy cha me, vo con, anh em, ban be hon thay thi khong xung voi Thay
angiangsi: Gam oi, nhung Chua cung
day rang: phai thao kinh cha me (gioi ran thu tu). Di nhien hai cau nay khong
mau thuan nhau.
kimluy_16: CO LE LA O MUC DICH CUA
MOI CAI CHET THOI
chuoixanh042003: Da nhu hoi nay
giacat luong co noi khong han cu o ben cha me, gia dinh moi la nguoi co hieu. .
ngoisaohivong85_qn: theo minh thi
nhung vi thanh tu dao khac rat nhieu so voi nguoi chet vi ly tuong
luuly034: khac diem nao vay
ngoisaohivong. . . ? ? ?
usaht270585 joined the room
angiangsi: Chung ta vua co the tra
loi cau 2, vua co the tra loi cau 3 nhe. Khi cac ban co nhung suy nghi ro rang
ve dieu nay, cac ban co the noi chuyen trao doi voi ca nhung nguoi chong bang
dao, coi thuong cac thanh tu dao. Co gang tra loi nhe. Dung noi rang: ho co
quan niem khac. . . . roi khong giai thich gi. Co gang giai thich cho ho hieu
niem tin cua minh, cung la mot cach truyen giao day.
usaht270585: cung met lam co bua
chang cco suc an com nua ay chu
ngoisaohivong85_qn: nhung nguoi
thanh tu dao la theo chan li cua chua con nhung nguoi chet vi ly tuong rat la
nhieu
angiangsi: Cac vi thanh tu dao vi
sao ma chet? Con nhung anh hung ngoai chien truong vi sa ma chet?
luuly034: the cac thang co nghi
den viec minh se la thanh khong
giacatluong862004: theo minh neu
ban noi nhu the nguoi ta hoi lai lai la ho cung chet vi li tuong cao dep va cai
chet ay dem lai hanh phauc cho mopi nguoi ban se tra loi ra sao
angiangsi: Dung truoc cai chet,
cac thanh tu dao phan ung the nao? Con nhung bac anh hung ngoai tran mac phan
ung the nao?
visaouoc: Cai chet cau cac Thanh
la cai chet tu nguyen de minh chung cho mot niem tin, vi the ma truoc cai chat
cac Ngai van ung dung, hien ngang
angiangsi: Cac vi thanh tu dao co
thai do nao doi voi nhung nguoi giet hai cac ngai? con nhung bac anh hung chet
ngoai tran mac co thai do nao doi voi nhung nguoi giet ho?
giacatluong862004: con ngi rang su
hi sinh cua cac thanh la moy nsu tu nguyen, boi mot niem tin vao ty quan phong
cua TC
ngoisaohivong85_qn: cac thanh tu
dao chet vi ly tuong va chan li con nhung nguoi anh hung chetngoi chien truong
la dem lai hanh phuc den cho dat nuoc
chuoixanh042003: Con nghi rang neu
nhin bang con mat binh thuong thi cac Thanh tu dao la nhung nguoi bat hieu,
khong lam tron bon phan cua mot nguoi chong, mot nguoi cha, Nhung khi o trong
hoan canh cua ngai phai lua chon hoac la TC hoac la cha me, vo con thi viec cac
ngai luc chon TC la dung nhat. Nhung nhu vay ko co nghi la cacngai bat hieu. .
. khi ve voi TC ho van co the hien dienben nguoi than, cau nguyen cho nguoi
than cua minh, Viec tu nhan lay cai chet xa nguoi than yeu cua minh chac han cung
ko de gi doi voi cac Thanh. .
angiangsi: Nhung cau hoi thay cho
len, la de goi y giup cac em dong nao de tra loi thoi. Cac em cu suy nghi va
tra loi nhe. Cu cho y kien cua minh len, dung ngai gi ca.
hy_vong_xanh2000: moi nguoi co mot
li tuong rieng. ho hi sinh vi li tuong cua no cac anh hung chet vi to quoc, vi
doc lap tu do cua dan toc. cac Thanh tu dao chet vi long yeu men Chua vi su ton
tai va phat trien cua dao ThienChua. con nghi su hi sinh cua cac thanh la can
thie t va dang tran trong
ngoisaohivong85_qn: xin moi
luuly034 chia se
ptoanh83: Khgac biet lon nhat do
la Ca Thanh chet vi De giu vung niem tin vao Chua. Tu nguyen chet. . neu cac
Ngai khong chet thi co the theo loi cua nhung nguoi cam dao. Nhung cac Ngai da
manh me tuyen xung niem tin cua minh. . .
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luuly034: lieu chung ta bay gio co
the tu dao khong vay? cai chet vi dao cua chung ta bay gio co khac voi cac
thanh xua khong? ( khong noi ve hinh thuc cai chet)
giacatluong862004:
ngoisaohivong85_qn cho minh cau tra loi duoc ko
chuoixanh042003: Doi voi nhung
nguoi da chet vi ly tuong nhu bao ve to quoc. . . Ho ra tran voi mot long cam
thu, su quyet tam mot la minh chet hai la ke thu cua minh phai chet. . . Con ca
Thanh khi chet ho van co the bat chuoc Chua Giesu: Lay Cha xin tha cho chung vi
chung ko biet viec chung lam. .
mnguyetbl: boi vi CT chet nhung
tin vao ngay mai se co su hanh phuc truong ton, o noi do hoan hy va ca tung
tinh yeu TC. con nhung nguoi chet vi li tuong thi khac -ho lam vi su hieu thang
cho ban than vi moi nguoi. tat nhien khi chet nhu vay ai ma k co su hy sinh va
quyet tam cho su tot dep hien tai.
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visaouoc: cac Thanh Tu dao co the
ko chet neu cac Ngai choi Chua, nhung cac Ngai van chon Tc la duy nhat, cac cai
tu nguyen chet cho TC. con cac anh hung ngoai chien tran truoc cai chet ho ko
duoc lua chon, hoac la minh giet ke thu hoac ke thu se giet minh. . .
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ptoanh83: hai hanh dong cung hoan
toan khac nhau:mot ben tu nguyen chap nhan cai chet. Tin tuong, va hanh phuc
truoc cai chet con mot ben la do nhung tac dong tu ben ngoai :co the vi danh
tieng, . . . nhung ho khong bi cuong buc. . .
chuoixanh042003: khi nhan lay cai
chet la cac Thanh hoan toan tu do; tu minh nhan lay TC, ko co thu oan, ko co
ghen ghet. . nhung ke da giet minh
visaouoc: dong y voi Oanh
ngoisaohivong85_qn: dong y voi anh
TRUONG
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chuoixanh042003: Em nghi nhung
nguoi chet ngoai chien tran ho cung tu nguyen day chu vi hanh phuc, vi doc lap
tu do cho que huong, cho gia dinh cua ho
angiangsi: 5 phut nua thay
caunguyen ket thuc nhe. Cac em cho nhung tra loi cua cac em len nhe.
ptoanh83: cai anh dung cua cac anh
hung ngoai chien tran con bao ham nhung ghen tuong, nhung tranh gianh. . . .
con cac Thanh thi hoan toan khong. . .
giacatluong862004: theo minh nyung
nguoi linh ra tran cung co nguoi vi bi ep buoc chu ko han la tu nguyen
giacatluong862004: ptoanh83 noi
hay lam
usaht270585: con nguoi bay gio co
hoan canh song khac xua so voi Cac Thanh ma
luuly034: co le neu chung ta nhin
lai va doc qua tin mung thi chung ta thay CT truoc khi chet khong nhung can dam
chap nhan, ma mot dieu rat la dac biet quan trong do la su tha thu cho ke giet
minh. Dieu nay tat nhien khong phai tat ca deu duoc viet thanh loi, nhung qua
thai do cua cac ngai truoc luc chet. Con cac anh hung noi sa truong, ho chet la
vi ho khong the giet chet ke thu cua ho duoc va den khi chet long cam thu van
con dang cao.
chuoixanh042003: Em nghi su khac
biet o day co le la khi ra tran cac thanh ko mang theo guom dao, sung, giao
mac. . . Nhung cac ngai mang theo tinh yeu, niem tin va su pho thac vao TC
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ptoanh83: hay qua Gam. . .
giacatluong862004: gam noi hay lam
giacatluong862004: ban noi tiep di
chuoixanh042003: cam on moi nguoi
nhe
visaouoc: y anh Dan (luly ) noi
hay lam
~~::mtm~~::; ; (xxx_cbm_xxx)
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angiangsi: Gio chia se hom nay,
cac ban rut ra duoc dieu gi?
angiangsi: Thay caunguyen ket thuc
nhe. Cac em cu suy nghi va hy vong no se giup chung ta song xung dang la con
chau cua cac thanh tu dao hon.
luuly034: qua gio chia se nay, em
co dip nhin lai ve cac thanh, ve nhung tam guong qua cam
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kimluy_16: NHUNG CUNG CO NHUNG VI
THANH KHI TU VI DAOHO CUNG CHUA HOAN TOAN Y THUC VE SU HI SINH CUA MINH PHAI KO
THAY
visaouoc: co gang hoc va noi theo
guong cac Thanh Tu dao, luon song lam sao de xung dang la con chau cua cac Ngai
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chuoixanh042003: Qua gio chia se
nay con thay duoc guong can truong, anh dung hi sinh cua cac Thanh tu Dao, bat
chap mang song cho niem tin, cho tinh yeu cua minh. Con uoc gi moi ngay con
cung co the thong cong voi cac Thanh bang nhung hi sinh nhho nhat nhu quet nha,
rua bat. . . ngay ca nhung khi ngai nhat
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luuly034: va co dip de nhin lai
chinh minh, va cung tu dat ra cho minh mot cau hoi rang lieu minh co the nhan
duoc phuc tu dao nhu cac thanh trong thoi dai nay khong? ? va dau la con duong se
dan dua con nguoi ngay hom nay den voi Chua.
angiangsi: Lay ThienChua la Cha
chung con. Chung con ta on Cha vi gio chia se vua qua, da cho chung con hieu
hon ve cac thanh tu dao, ve cac bac cha anh cua chung con. Ta on Cha da cho
chung con biet cach tra loi sao voi nhung nguoi khong hieu Cha va chi trich
chung con. Xin Cha cho chung con them tinh yeu va long nhiet thanh, de chung
con luon song yeu thuong, de nhung nguoi chua nhan biet Cha la Thien Chua va
Duc Yesu Con Cha duoc on tro thanh mon de Duc Yesu. Chung con cau xin, nho Duc
Yesu Kito, Chua chung con.
angiangsi: Amen.
chuoixanh042003: Amen
luuly034: amen
mnguyetbl: amen
visaouoc: amen
kimluy_16: AMEN
angiangsi: Cam on cac em rat
nhieu. Chuc cac em mot giac ngu ngon.
giacatluong862004: cam on thay
duyvietnam2000: AMEN
ngoisaohivong85_qn: gio chia se
hom nay, theo em la nhin nhan lai chinh minh nhung thoi gian qua minh co hi
sinh vao nhung chuyen nho xay ra hang ngay cho chua hay ko va long dung cam
ngoisaohivong85_qn: cam on thay
angiangsi: Thay bi out mot lan, em
nao co du gio chia se, save lai va goi cho thay nhe. Binh thuong, mai cac em co
the doc lai nhung dieu nay tren trang web.
duyvietnam2000: con can on thay
hy_vong_xanh2000: qua gio chia se
hom nay con da co dip nhin lai lich su. nhin lai qua trinh lhat trien cua dao
chung ta, con kham phuc su hi sing cao ca cua cac thanh tu dao ngay hon hay
chung con se noi guong cac thanh (khong phai chet nhu cac thanh )nhung con cung
lam tat ca vi su ton tai va phat trien cua hoi thanh. va con xin moi nguoi cau
nguyen cho con
chuoixanh042003: Con chuc thay va
tat ca cac anh chi luon day tran tinh yeu, niem tin, binh an, hanh phuc trong
tinh yeu, su quan phong cua TC
hoanua29822000: qua gio chia se
nay thuy thay hieu ra nhieu dieu
chuoixanh042003: Chuc cac anh chi
luon song trung thanh voi ly tuong cua minh
luuly034: Chung ta cung cam on
nhau nhe
hy_vong_xanh2000: con chuc thay va
tat ca anh chi em suc khoe hanh phuc va binh an trong Chua
luuly034: Chuc moi nguoi ve binh
an, hanh phuc va thanh cong
ngoisaohivong85_qn: chuc moi nguoi
co nhung giac mo dep
giacatluong862004: con chuc thay
va cac ban se lam duoc nhung dieu ma buoi chia se hom nay da dat ra cho moi
nguoi, de xung dang la chung nhan duc tin cua thien chua o the gian nay
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hoanua29822000: amen
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