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October 05, 2005

1. Ong chu co nhieu mong uoc ve cay nho nen đa chuan bi vuon nho rat chu đao, the ma cay nho lai sinh trai chua (Is 5, 1-7)! Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi con nguoi? Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi toi? Sinh trai “chua” trong cuoc song, nghia la gi?

2. Vien đa nguoi tho xay loai bo lai tro nen vien da goc (Mt 21, 33-43). Đau la tieu chuan đanh gia cua toi? Đieu quý nhat đoi voi toi la gi? Nguoi doi co loai dieu quy that ma di tim dieu khong co gia tri khong? Xin cho ví dụ.

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chuoixanh042003: De tai hom nay:

chuoixanh042003: 1. Ong chu co nhieu mong uoc ve cay nho nen đa chuan bi vuon nho rat chu đao, the ma cay nho lai sinh trai chua (Is 5, 1-7)! Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi con nguoi? Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi toi? Sinh trai “chua” trong cuoc song, nghia la gi?

2. Vien đa nguoi tho xay loai bo lai tro nen vien đa goc (Mt 21, 33-43). Đau la tieu chuan đanh gia cua toi? Đieu quý nhat đoi voi toi la gi? Nguoi đoi co loai đieu quy that ma đi tim đieu khong co gia tri khong? Xin cho ví dụ.

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angiangsi: Chao tat ca nhe. Vao duoc chua chi Le?

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khanhtuan20_02: Chào Cha và các bạn

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luuly034: Chao tat ca moi nguoi

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angiangsi: Chao nhe. Khong ngo hom nay cung dong day chu.

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damrong2712: ah Luuly034 co phai nick cua anh Dan khong ?

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conloncon2002: Dung roi do

luuly034: Luu Ly la ho luu ten ly

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luuly034: em khong duoc noi lung tung trong nay

luuly034: luu ly cung nguoi moi ne Nhi' em

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nguyen bich hong: nho khong?

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conloncon2002: Da

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luuly034: Nhi em

khanhtuan20_02: gì thế anh

luuly034: dung co thay chu Hong ma nhan ba con

luuly034: Hong dep nhung nhieu gai lam do

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luuly034: Anh co kinh nghiem bi gai hong dam nhieu lam roi

luuly034: hiiii

ptoanh83: CHAo Tat ca anh chi em trong TInh Yeu.

angiangsi: Lay Cha, chung con tin Cha dang hien dien voi chung con, du chung con khong thay mat nhau va khong thay Cha. Xin Cha ban ThanhThan cho chung con. Xin ThanhThan cua Duc Yesu Phuc Sinh huong dan chung con trong gio chia se nay. Xin cho chung con duoc hieu Chua hon va hieu con nguoi hon, hieu chinh chung con hon, de chung con song moi ngay mot tot hon trong tinh yeu cua Cha. Chung con cau xin, nho Duc Yesu Kito, Chua chung con.

angiangsi: Amen.

chuoixanh042003: Amen

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luuly034: Amen

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anhman_thuy8vn: that long xin loi cac ban minh lan dau len nen chua biet noi gi ca

vuongquochongan: Amen

khanhtuan20_02: amen

nguyen bich hong: amen

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tuong_huan04: AMEN

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angiangsi: Bay gio, xin cac ban moi nguoi gioi thieu ten thanh, ho va ten, hien dang o dau, dang hoc hay lam gi, v.v....

angiangsi: Giuse Pham Thanh Liem, tu si, hien dang o SaiGon.

tuong_huan04: Minh la Anton Dang tuong Huan , o BMT

chuoixanh042003:

Tran Gam, SV nam 3 DH Quy Nhon

anhman_thuy8vn: minh la PHERO PHAM CONG ANH MAN o bmt

vuongquochongan: luis Ung Minh Vuong ,sv , quy nhon

angiangsi: Sau khi gioi thieu va tham hoi nhau trong khoang 5 phut, chung ta se bat dau vao chia se theo cau hoi dua vao Loi Chua Chua Nhat vua qua.

khanhtuan20_02: Jos. Dương Khánh Tuấn, BMT

luuly034: Philippe Luu Ly 29 tuoi cuu SVBMT

anhman_thuy8vn: minh la hs o bmt

ptoanh83: PHam OAnh.Sv Van nam 4.Dai hoc Quy NHon.Que THAnh HOA.

conloncon2002: kim Phuong 23 tuoihien dang o Sai Gon

luuly034: Luu ly hien dang that nghiep, can tim viec lam.

damrong2712: minh la Gioan Pang Ting Bel SV nam thu 4 truong DH Tay Nguyen

nguyen bich hong: Minh la Anna Bich Hong thuoc CLC Sao Mai. Sai Gon

trovevoithiennhien0303: Tran Thi Nguyet sinh vien quy nhon

luuly034: Nguyet nao vay, Luuly biet khong vay

angiangsi: Co ai muon hoi tham nhau dieu gi khong? neu co thi cu hoi trong phong hoi nay nhe. Ke tu gio, xin cac ban dung chat rieng nhe, nhung chiu kho de den cuoi gio hay chat rieng nha.

chuoixanh042003: anhman_thuy...ten gi nhi

angiangsi: Xin ai do cho cau hoi len giup nhe.

trovevoithiennhien0303: anh ko biet dau

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chuoixanh042003: cam on anh Huan

tuong_huan04: ko co gi

nguyen bich hong: chuoi xanh la ai vay?

tuong_huan04: Man la minh gioi thieu vao do

chuoixanh042003: chuoi xanh la nguoi o cung nhom van nghe voi Hong hoi o Vung Tau do

nguyen bich hong: quen roi

angiangsi: 1. Ong chu co nhieu mong uoc ve cay nho nen đa chuan bi vuon nho rat chu đao, the ma cay nho lai sinh trai chua (Is 5, 1-7)! Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi con nguoi? Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi toi? Sinh trai “chua” trong cuoc song, nghia la gi?

nguyen bich hong: pls gioi thieu lai dum di

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angiangsi: 1. Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi dan Israel? TC mong uoc gi noi con nguoi? TC mong uoc gi noi toi?

soulofrock245: hi everyboby

chuoixanh042003: chao NGuyen

soulofrock245: da chao chi Gam

tuong_huan04: Xin cac ban gioi thieu nhanh , de con chia se nua nhe !

soulofrock245: bua nay thay em ngoan ngoan ko @!?

conloncon2002: Xin cac anh chi dung noi chuyen dua trong phong room

conloncon2002: Cam on cac anh chi nhieu

tuong_huan04: Chuc ta bat dau nhe

conloncon2002: Xin cac anh chi chia se

angiangsi: Xin moi cac ban chia se nhe. Cau hoi dua vao tin mung ChuaNhat vua qua. Hy vong tat ca cac ban deu da di du le, va da biet (Neu cho cac ban khong cu hanh le Duc Me Man Coi).

damrong2712: dan Israel duoc Thien Chua tuyen chon lam dan rieng nen Ngai muon Israel thuc hien giao uoc cua Ngai

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cddgcc2004: Chao moi nguoi

chuoixanh042003: chao Dai

cddgcc2004: uh

cddgcc2004: Dang chia se gi vay

tuong_huan04: Theo minh, TC mong muon cho dan Israel duoc tro nen moi ngay nhu Ngai , va yeu thuong nhau qua nhung cu chi va viec lam cua chinh ho

angiangsi: Trong tin mung, ong chu mong xay tuong bao ve vuon nho, cho doi cay nho sinh trai tot, the ma no lai sinh nho chua. Ong chu mong uoc gi? Day chi la mot du ngon thoi, chu cay nho dau co biet gi dau co tu do de dap loi ong chu. Vuon nho, cay nho day chinh la dan Dothai. Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi dan DoThai?

chuoixanh042003: 1. Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi dan Israel? TC mong uoc gi noi con nguoi? TC mong uoc gi noi toi?

angiangsi: Thien Chua mong uoc gi noi con nguoi, va cu the, TC mong uoc gi noi toi?

ptoanh83: CHIA se tung van de mot di.

cddgcc2004: uh

chuoixanh042003: Thien Chua da danh cho dan Dothai tat ca moi tinh yeu thuong va su uu ai cua Ngai. Ngai chi mong muon ho trung thanh voi Ngai, lang nghe va thuc hanh dieu Ngai muon. Nho vay ma ho duoc song hanh phuc

conloncon2002: Theo P TC mong uoc con nguoi duoc song hanh phuc va

ptoanh83: Theo con THien CHUa mong muon noi dan itrael lauoc lon len trong CHUa.

conloncon2002: Va TC mong uoc con nguoi duoc lon len trong tinh yeu cua TC

tuong_huan04: TC mong muon dan Do Thai duoc huong nhung cuoc song nhu Ngai

nguyen bich hong: Theo Con Thien Chua luon mong uoc con nguoi moi ngai duoc tro nen dong hinh dong dang voi Ngai hon

chuoixanh042003: Kinh Thanh da tung noi la Thien Chua da ghen tuong khi ma dan Dothai da bo Ngai ma den voi cac than cua dan ngoai va Kinh THanh cung noi rang "Thieng Chua vui thich o giua con nguoi"

ptoanh83: Bang Dan itrael la dan ma CHua chon vi vay CHua rat quan tam den dan nay.Tu dan nay CHua mong muon nuoc CHua duoc lan rong mai.

nguyen bich hong: Hoan thien trong tung ngay , tung gio....

chuoixanh042003: Nhu vay dan DO thai la dan rieng da duoc Thien Chua tuyen chon, Ngai coi ho la nguoi vui cua Ngai va mong muon cho ho duoc song hanh phuc

ptoanh83: VA moi nguoi dan itrael la mot vai tro lam nhan chung ve tinh yeu cua CHua o tran gian.

angiangsi: Gam noi TC mong uoc dan dothai nghe va thuc hanh Loi Chua de duoc song hanh phuc. THEO Y BAN, LIEU CO THE SONG HANH PHUC MA KHONG LAM THEO Y THIEN CHUA KHONG?

tuong_huan04: Va Tc luon mong muon mot dieu la Dan cua Ngai se la dan chon cau Ngai, de Ngai dan dat trong tam tinh yeu thuong nhu tinh cam giua Nguoi Con va Nguoi Cha , Giua Ong chu Va cay nho cua Ngai

angiangsi: Neu con nguoi co the hanh phuc "dichthuc" ma khong can song theo Y Thien Chua, thi chac khong can phai vang theo Thien Y lam chi. Tai sao KHONG SONG THEO Y CHUA THI KHONG THE HANH PHUC DUOC NHI?

tuong_huan04: Vi Thien Chua la Tinh yeu, voi lai o Ngai, ko co toi loi , chinh dieu do Ngai mong muon cho Dan cua Ngai moi ngay hoan thien hon trong cuoc song , de chien thang duoc toi loi

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anhman_thuy8vn: CHUNG TA CO CUOCSONG HANH PHUC LA NHO THIEN CHUA BAN CHO,VI THE MUON SONG HANH PHUC RTHI PHAI LUON LANG NGHE LOI CHU

tuong_huan04: Vi neu nhu ko co Ngai, chung ta se ko lam duoc gi ca

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ptoanh83: THien CHua da dat tat ca niem tin tuong cung nhu TInh yeu vao dan NGAi chon.Vi vay NGai rat mong muon dan nay duoc trien no trong NGAi.VA THien CHua mong muon dan tin rang chi co Noi NGAi thi Dan moi duoc huong tron niem hanh phuc.

chuoixanh042003: Con nghi co the la co doi voi nhung nguoi chua biet Thien Chua. Nhung voi nhung nguoi da hieu duoc chuong trinh cua Thien Chua tren cuoc doi cua ho thi chua han ho da hanh phuc khi khong lang nghe loi THien Chua. Bang chung la dan DO thai vi khong nghe loi Thien CHua. Lam nhung dieu trai voi y muon cua Thien Chua. Vi vay ma ho da phai trai qua nhieu ohen dieu dung

caothiphuonglinh: con chao Thay ,chao tat ca anh chi a!

conloncon2002: Cho con xin chao Cha va cac anh chi em con phai ve truoc vi co viec chuc Cha va cac anh chi em tim ra duoc Y Chua trong moi nguoi

anhman_thuy8vn: chao

conloncon2002:

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damrong2712: neu khong co Thay anh em chang lam gi duoc do la cau noi cua Chua Giesu khi Ngai dung du ngon de day cac mon de \

chuoixanh042003: Chua Giesu cung tung noi "Phuc cho nhung ai lang nghe va tuan giu loi Thien CHua"

tuong_huan04: Vi moi soi toc cua chung ta , TC da dem roi ma . Chinh ve the , qua Loi Chua va qua nhung gi Thanh Kinh da chung minh cho chung ta . Chung ta songlam sao de cho Ngai mim cuoimvoi chung ta

tuong_huan04: Xi cac ban dung de thoi gian chet nhe

tuong_huan04: Xin chie se lien tuc nhe

angiangsi: Neu khong song theo Y Chua (lam dieu tot, song dung, song theo CHAN THIEN MY) thi con nguoi co the song hanh phuc khong? Thi du, khong song theo Muoi Gioi Ran, thi con nguoi co the song hanh phuc khong?

ptoanh83: O trong Kinh Tahnh cung tung co nhieu cau nhuyen ve viec dan Do THAu khong tin CHua va CHua da trung phat ho nhu the nao de ho thay duoc la CHua khong vui khi ho khong thuc hanh loi Chua day.

damrong2712: co rat nhieu nguoi ngoai dao ho song tot hon chung ta day chu

ptoanh83: COn nGhi chac chan la khong roi.

ptoanh83: Vi nhung dieu CHua day bao la nhung dieu ma NGAi mong muo ncon nguoi duoc tro nen HAnh phuc hon....Ma con nguoi khong thuc hien thi chac la khong co hanh phuc thuc su.

angiangsi: Neu toi khong trung thanh, neu toi lam chung gian hai nguoi, thi lieu toi co the song hanh phuc voi gia dinh toi, voi nhung nguoi song voi toi, ke ca vo chong con cai khong? Lieu nhung nguoi nay co the TIN VAO TOI, co the song thoai mai va tin tuong vao toi khong? Neu toi khong trung thanh hoac doi xu tot voi nguoi khac, thi co gi chac la toi doi xu tot voi nhung nguoi o ben toi, ngay ca nhung nguoi do la cha me anh chi em hoac vo chong?

anhman_thuy8vn: chung ta song khong phai chi co tuan thu muoi gioi ran ma con nhieu cai khac nua?

chuoixanh042003: Co nhung dieu khi khong song dung voi cac gia tri chan thien my co the con nguoi van co nhung niem vui nhat dinh khi ho lam duoc nhung dieu ho muon du do la nhung dieu khong dung. Nhung khi ho lam nhu vay ho se luon cam thay bat an. Va nhu vay thi khong phai la hanh phuc

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tuong_huan04: Neu ko lam theo ThanhY cua Chua , co le moi con nguoi chung ta se ko cam nhan duoc dau la hanh phuc , dau la vui suong trong cuoc song nay . Vi du nhu gioi tre ngay hom nay caung vay. Neu ho ko nam duoc can ban cua nhan ban , ho se moi ngay dang mat di con nguoi nhan ban cua ho

cddgcc2004: Moi nguoi nen viet ngan gon nhung xuc tich

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cddgcc2004: noi the nay theo doi ko kip

ptoanh83: DUng do.

damrong2712: chung ta song ngay nao lam sao dep long anh chi em xung quanh

anhman_thuy8vn: vi du nhu la phai luon lang nghe hoc hoi loi chua ...

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ptoanh83: MInh biet la then hung de thuc hanh dieu da duoc lang nghe thi cung tuong doi khgo khan do.

ptoanh83: Doi hoi moi nguoi can co gang tung ngay, tung ngay...

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tuong_huan04: Co gang haon thien ban than , chinh la da lang nghe Loi Chua va lam theo Thanh Y Ngai roi

angiangsi: Xin moi nguoi cu viet va cho len nhe. Chung ta moi nguoi cu theo dong tu tuong cua minh, va ai khong theo kip thi ban do se doc sau vay.

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tuong_huan04: Va giup moi nguoi xung quanh nua

bonifatai: chao tat ca cong doan dan chua tren mang

tuong_huan04: Chao anh Ai

anhman_thuy8vn:

hy_vong_xanh2000: chao Cha ,chao moi nguoi,xin loi con den muon

bonifatai: chao t huan

angiangsi: Nho viet thanh cau va het y roi hay cho len, vi khi giua hai dong cua minh viet, da co nhieu nguoi cho len roi, nen kho theo duoc y cua minh neu minh khong hoan chinh cau co y roi moi cho len.

tuong_huan04: Da

chuoixanh042003: Thien CHua mong muon cho con nguoi duoc hanh phuc. Thien Chua cham lo cho con nguoi nhu cham soc vuon nho. Va co the noi Ngai da dung nhung dieu ran, nhung loi day bao de gin giu va bao ve con nguoi cung giong nhu nguoi trong nho cung tuong rao ma bao ve vuon nho vay

angiangsi: ThienChua mong uoc gi noi con nguoi? TC mong uoc gi noi toi?

tuong_huan04: Thien Chua luon mong muon chung ta moi ngay song la song cho Ngai va hieu duoc nhung gi ma Ngai da lam cho chung ta , trong nhung kho khan hay la nhung cong viec cua chung ta

damrong2712: TC mong uoc noi con nguoi hoi tam va tro lai voi Ngai

angiangsi: Phan lon cac ban noi TC mong uoc toi song hanh phuc; va con nguoi chi hanh phuc DICH THUC khi song theo Loi Ngai, khi song theo gioi ran, khi song yeu thuong nhau. VAY CAU HOI LA: TAI SAO NGUOI TA KHONG MUON SONG THEO GIOI RAN CUA THIEN CHUA? TAI SAO NGUOI TA KHONG YEU THUONG NHAU NHU TC MUON?

angiangsi: Nguoi ta muon dieu gi?

tuong_huan04: TC mong muon toi co gang hoan thien hon voiban than minh , luon co long yeu thuong moi hon nua, trong cuoc song co gang giup do moi nguoineu co the

bonifatai: Thien chua ko mong con nguoi thanh dat ma mong con nguoi trung thanh

anhman_thuy8vn: thien chua mong muon chung ta song that hanh phac va song theo gioi ran cua ngai

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bonifatai: Hay trung thanh voi giao ly duc tin ma ban da nhan duoc

muatrang20002000: Den dau roi vay?

chuoixanh042003: Song duoc nhu TC muon, doi hoi con nguoi phai biet tu bo, biet cho di, biet quen di chinh minh. Ma con nguoi thi luon mang trong minh mam mong cua su ich ki, nhung yeu duoi... The nen con nguoi luon cam thay kho khan khi lam theo nhung gi TC muon

bonifatai: Thung thanh voi tat ca nhung dieu ban da the hua hi lanh phap rua toi

nguyen bich hong: Vi de song thao Y Chua thi that la kho khi ap dung trong moi truong thuc tien. Ming cam thay bi thua thiet nhieu la. Chinh vi the neu khong co on Chua giup minh thuc hien thi chac kho khan lam

tuong_huan04: Nguoita luon mong muon cho chinh ho duoc hanh phuc , nhung ho da ko biet rang : Nhung viec cua Tc , con nguoi nhieu khi ko hieu duoc , vi ho chi mong muon theo huong chu quan cua ho ma thoi

tuong_huan04: Cong viec ma Tc da lam cho chung ta , nhieu luc chung ta chi hieu theo mot phia thoi. Chinh vi the trong luc nay day mot so nguoi ko chiu lam theo Muoi Gioi ran haoc theo nhung gi ma TC da muon chung t alm

muatrang20002000: Co phai la do khong hieu that khong?

angiangsi: Xin cac ban cu cho cau chia se len nhe. Xin Gam chuan bi cho cau so 2 len giup nhe.

tuong_huan04: Hieu nhung ma chi mot khia canh nao do thoi

anhman_thuy8vn: con nguoi ta thi long tham vo day lam nhung con nguoi luon mong muon mot dieu la co mot cuoc song yen vui hanh phuc

muatrang20002000: Nhieu khi ta khong chien thang duoc cai Toi q

chuoixanh042003: 2. Vien đa nguoi tho xay loai bo lai tro nen vien đa goc (Mt 21, 33-43). Đau la tieu chuan đanh gia cua toi? Đieu quý nhat đoi voi toi la gi? Nguoi đoi co loai đieu quy that ma đi tim đieu khong co gia tri khong? Xin cho ví dụ.

muatrang20002000: lon cua ta.

tuong_huan04: VI giua con nguoi va TC luon co mot khang cach rat la xa , do la toi loi va hanh phuc

muatrang20002000: Nhung neu ta quyet tam cong voi on CHua thi do dau con la khoang cach.

tuong_huan04: Dung roi do

muatrang20002000: Vay dieu do phu thuoc vao ai?

tuong_huan04: Chinh vi the TC luon muon chung ta moi ngay tro ne giong Ngai hon do

tuong_huan04: Phu thuoc vao chinh moimban than chung ta

muatrang20002000: Neu muon pha khoang cach do?THIen CHUA HAy COn nGUoi.

muatrang20002000: THeo minh co le ca hai phia cung hop tac.

tuong_huan04: Vi ko chien thanh duoc ban than , thi se ko chien thang sduoc ma quy va nhung toi loi

tuong_huan04: Dung roi do , neu chung ta lam va hop tac voi Li cau nguyen voi Tc thio dse thanh cong nmhieu hon nua

muatrang20002000: Vay dieu ta cam ban la gi?

chuoixanh042003: Thien Chua ko tao ra khoang cach voi con nguoi bang chung la chinh Chua Giesu da TRO NEN MOT voi con nguoi. Nhung chinh con nguoi khuoc tu hanh phuc ma THien chua muon cho minh nen con nguoi cu moi ngay them xa TC

muatrang20002000: Ta pHAi lam sao de chiem duoc hanh phuc do mot cach thiet thuc nhat hop voi hoan canh cua moi chung ta.

angiangsi: Trong TinMung Chua Nhat vua qua co cau: "vien da ma nhung nguoi tho xay loai bo, lai tro nen vien da goc". Nhung nguoi tho xay da DANH GIA THEO TIEU CHUAN NAO de loai mot vien da quan trong nhu vay? Cau hoi duoc dat ra la: DAU LA TIEU CHUAN CHON LUA SONG CUA TOI? NHUNG TIEU CHUAN MA NGUOI DOI THUONG CHON LA GI? NHUNG TIEU CHUAN NAY CO MANG LAI HANH PHUC DICH THUC CHO CON NGUOI KHONG?

muatrang20002000: THeo y CHua muon.

luuly034: Chung ta thay, ong chu cham soc vuon nho ong cham soc rat chu dao, nghia la luon mang den moi dieu kien tot nhat de cay nho sinh trai ngot. The nhung cay nho lai sinh trai chua, ban than cay nho khong y thuc ve dieu nay va no vo tinh di nguoc lai voi y dinh cua chu. Cay nho o day chinh la dan Do Thai xua va chinh moi con nguoi chung ta ngay hom nay. Ong chu vuon nho chinh la Thien Chua, Ngai da cham soc va ban cho con nguoi rat nhieu nhung dieu kien thuan loi de song hanh phuc, va quyen tu do de lua chon hanh phuc cho minh. Nhung con nguoi da su dung quyen tu do mot cach khong chinh dang va doi khi da di nguoc lai voi y dinh cua Thien Chua. Tu

muatrang20002000: DAi the ai doc cho noi LUly oi?

tuong_huan04: Xin cacban chia se sang cau 2 di a

luuly034: Ngai. dieu duy nhat Ngai muon noi con nguoi la hay hoan thien chinh ban than minh trong tinh yeu cua Ngai.

damrong2712: nguoi ngoai giao ho khong nhan ra niem vui nhu chung ta

tuong_huan04: Tieu chuan chon lua song cau toi, co le do la chinh vuotqua nhung Thanh Gia ma TC da trao cho toi, qua moi ngay song cua toi

tuong_huan04: Vi neu ko vuotqua Thanh Gia duoc, co le toi se ko chon duoc huong song cho minh

hy_vong_xanh2000: co the cho cau 2 len duoc khong?

tuong_huan04: roi do ban , phia tren do

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hy_vong_xanh2000: xin loi ban minh vao sau ma nhinh khong co .ban co the cho len mot lan nua khong??

muatrang20002000: Toi luon biet tieu chuan ma toi can tim trong cuoc song la THien cHUa cua toi.NHung ma nhieu khi nhung tieu chuan khac cu lan at toi...

hoamoclan0607 has joined the conference.

muatrang20002000: dieu do lam toi sa nga va lo so rat la nhieu lan...

bonifatai: Tieu chuan danh gia cua toi chinh la tiue chuan danh gia cua GH

angiangsi: Vang, xin cac ban chia se cau: DAU LA TIEU CHUAN DANH GIA CUA BAN? NGUOI DOI CO CUNG QUAN DIEM DANH GIA DOI VOI BAN KHONG? NEU CO KHAC NHAU, GIUA HO VA BAN KHAC NHAU O DIEM NAO?

angiangsi: Chang han ve quan niem hanh phuc "dich thuc" o cau 1.

bonifatai: em hoc o dau

chuoixanh042003: CX luon lay Chua Gie su va cach hanh xu cua Ngai de danh gia nhung gi minh nghi, nhung gi minh lam

tuong_huan04: Dieu quy trong nhat cua toi, do chinh la long thuong yeu voi moi nguoi. Neu ko co long thuong, tat ca se ko co mot ket cuoc dep ca

bonifatai: cau noi tren chinh la noi ve chua gie

thaoquyen1084: No, thank you.

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muatrang20002000: Nhieu khiu tpoi thay buon vi su danh gia cua nguoi doi hon la buon vi su danh gia cua tHIen CHua doi voi toi...

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bonifatai: chua gs da bi loai ra ngoai nhung chinh ngai da tro nen da tang goc tuong day

tuong_huan04: Xin cac ban chia se a ! Dung de thoi gian chet nhieu a

muatrang20002000: TOi thay bay gio nhieu nguoi danh gia nhau bang nac thang gia tri vat chat:tien tai,danh vong......

khanhtuan20_02 has joined the conference.

luuly034: Duc Giesu da tu vi minh la vien da ma nhung nguoi tho xay loai bo. Co le duoi con mat cua nguoi Do Thai (dac biet cac luat si va kinh su) thoi bay gio, DGS chang la gi ca xet tren tuoi tac, trinh do hoc thuc.... chi la mot con nguoi binh thuong o mot vung Nazaret ngheo. Va ho da danh gia DGS tren binh dien nhu vay, cuoi cung ho da loai Ngai ra bang cai chet tren thap tu gia.

tuong_huan04: Trong room , gio la rat nhieu do , neu moi nguoi cho moy chia se, dieu do rat sinh dong do

callaflower261103 has joined the conference.

muatrang20002000: DUng vay do...

muatrang20002000: Nguoi doi thuong nhin ve dia vi,danh vong tien tai...

nguyen bich hong: Do la thuc te

muatrang20002000: va con nguoi ta luon bi quyen ru ve nhung mat do la nhieu...

nguyen bich hong: Tuy nhien minh cung da tung duoc hoc, duoc biet nen....

bonifatai: cac ban bit tai sao nguoi vi nguoi la vien da goc tuong ma ko vi la vien da o mot cho khac ko?

nguyen bich hong: phai co gang co canh cu xu khac voi ho

chuoixanh042003: Co nhieu cach de danh gi mot con nguoi. Co nguoi danh gia ho la tot hay xau. Co nguoi lai xay dung gia tri con nguoi tren nhung gi ma ho co chang han nguoi do co giau ko? nguoi do co thanh dat ko? nguoi do co dia vi gi ko....

angiangsi: Moi cac ban chia se nhe. Chung ta se chia se 7 phut nua roi ket thuc. Xin di vao trong tam.

luuly034: Nhung DGS da bao truoc rang chinh vien da do se la vien da quan trong, qua la nhu vay. Hoi thanh Chua da duoc xay dung tren tang da goc la DGS va duoc tiep tuc xay dung qua cac Thanh Tong do va cac dang ke vi, de duoc dung vung va se con phat trien hon.

muatrang20002000: NHung doi voi toi..,toi cung nhieu lan so sanh, nhin nhan nhu moi nguoi... nhung toi chot nhan ra toi khong duoc bimnh than,khong duoc hanh phuc,....

bonifatai: anh ko hieu gam dang muon noi ve dieu gi

tuong_huan04: Giua cuoc song day bon chen va tre hoa nay, moinguoi chung ta phai tu dau tranh cho chinh ban than minh truoc nhung cam do cua dong tien dang vong. Chinh vi the , De dang gia mot nguoi , chung ta can den nhung nhan ban cua ho

angiangsi: Nguoi doi co tieu chuan danh gia cua ho, chang han: co nhieu tien, co dia vi danh vong,, huong lac thu v.v....

bonifatai: chia se dieu gi trog cau 2 nay ma cac ban ban du thu chuyen the?

callaflower261103: nhung cu danh co sao ko

callaflower261103: co can tuc le chao hoi gioi thieu gi ko

tuong_huan04: Rieng toi dieu ma danh gia tieu chuan cho toi , chinh la yeu thuong nhau trong cuco song nay

angiangsi: Tieu chuan danh gia cua nhung nguoi theo duong loi cua Thien Chua: hanh phuc cua tha nhan va cung la hanh phuc dich thuc cua toi, yeu thuong nen dong long thuong cam truoc noi kho cua tha nhan, tim cach giup do tha nhan de ho song trien no va hanh phuc, ton trong tha nhan va quyen loi cua ho de minh luon duoc binh an, v.v...

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luuly034: Duoi con mat cua con nguoi song o doi thuong, tieu chuan danh gia la dia vi, danh vong, tien bac, hoc thuc,.... chung ta co the thay dieu nay dang ton tai trong xa hoi mot cach hien nhien. Va duong nhu no dang tro thanh mot quy luat, theo nhung nguoi dang buoc tren quy luat do thi no dang tro thanh mot quy luat ba^'t bie^'n de danh gia mot con nguoi, mot vien da trong xa hoi ngay nay.

muatrang20002000: NHung ta la nguoi duoc CHua keu goi...CHua luon chon ta hop voi vai tro cua ta, trong dieu kien ta co the ....Va dieu dac biet la luon moi goi ta song loi cHua trong chinh cuoc song thuong ngay cua ta.Ben canh nhung nguoi ma ta cung chung song...

angiangsi: Neu nguoi ta kho vi chon lua sai lam, vi co quan diem sai lam, thi toi cung dong long thuong ho va tim cach giup ho, de ho co cai nhin dung dan ve ThienChua connguoi va vanvat, de ho co the song binhan va hanh phuc.

muatrang20002000: NHUng co0n thay rat kho song nhu the lam...

muatrang20002000: NHieu luc thay nan lam...

tuong_huan04: Theo minh, nhieu luc trong cuoc song, nhung gi ma chinh ban than minh cam nhan va da lam , moi nguoi deu che trach va ko dong y . nhung chinh nhung gi ma minh da quyet dinh, neu cam thay ko lam hai ai ca, dieu do chinh la tieu chuan cua toi

luuly034: VD: Nhung anh chang choi xe hoi da tu danh gia thu hang cua minh trong lang choi xe nhu: 1 BMW. 2. TOYOTA. 3. ....

angiangsi: Neu mot nguoi khong song tot voi tha nhan, thi lam sao nguoi khac (ke ca nguoi than cua ho nhu cha me, vo chong, con cai, anh chi em) co the tin rang nguoi do se song tot voi ho. Va neu ho khong tin vao nguoi do, thi lam sao nguoi do co the song hanh phuc duoc?

muatrang20002000: Dang buc minh voi co ban chaNG HAN ...THI DU QUYET TAM LAM CUNG KHO MA NOI CHUYEN DUOC VOI CO BAN DO.

luuly034: LL dong y voi cha Liem, muon co hanh phuc thi phai co niem tin. Neu tin tuong ----> Yeu thuong va nhu vay se co hanh phuc

angiangsi: Nhung ai con y tuong, xin dua len nhe. Toi se caunguyen ket thuc trong 1 phut nua.

tuong_huan04: Voi minh, nhung luc chon lua cho minh mot van de de giai quyet , nggi rta nhieu , nhieu khi khoc truoc nhung chon lua sai lam cua minh

muatrang20002000: LL co luon duoc hanh phuc khong?

muatrang20002000: toi thi hay sai lam lam...

luuly034: Minh se tra loi ban sau

angiangsi: Lay Cha, chung con ta on Cha da cho chung con gio chia se vua qua. Cam on Cha da ban ThanhThan cua Chua Yesu Phuc Sinh cho chung con. Xin cho chung con cam nghiem niem vui va hanh phuc khi song yeu thuong, khi thuc thi nhung dieu Cha mong muon ve chung con. Xin cho chung con moi ngay mot nen giong Chua Yesu hon, yeu thuong den quen minh va tim duoc niem vui khi giup do nguoi khac. Chung con cau xin, nho Duc Yesu Kito, Chua chung con.

angiangsi: Amen.

chuoixanh042003: Amen

muatrang20002000: Anh Huan ung la tot roi.

bonifatai: a men

muatrang20002000: Amen

nguyen bich hong: amen

tuong_huan04: AMEN

anhman_thuy8vn: amen

damrong2712: Amen

luuly034: Con nguoi luon co nhung sai lam, va sai lam trong tung giay phut cua cuoc song. Nhung neu ban nhan ra duoc do la sai lam thi ban co the sua no.

luuly034: A

luuly034: Amen

anhman_thuy8vn: con cam on cha va moi nguoi

damrong2712: chuc anh chi em mot ngay tot lanh

tuong_huan04: CHUC MOI NGUOI VE BINH AN VA NGU NGON NHE

chuoixanh042003: Cam on tat ca moi nguoi nhe. Chuc moi nguoi luon song duoc nhu Chua muon. Va giay phut nay cau chuc moi nguoi ngu ngon trong Chua yeu thuong

anhman_thuy8vn: vang

angiangsi: Cam on cac ban da hien dien de chia se. Xin cac ban ru nhau, de chung ta lan toi chia se that dong va sinh dong. Chuc cac ban ngu ngon trong tinh yeu.

muatrang20002000: CAu chuc moi nguoi Luon BInh an.

luuly034: Cam on cha

tuong_huan04: Cam on Ch va moi nguoi

anhman_thuy8vn: cau xin thien chua va me Maria luon cau bau va che tro cho tat ca moi nguoi!

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